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MALE: IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOD'S WORD IN YOU, GET IT.
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MALE: HOW CAN I BE WHAT GOD CREATED ME TO BE, WITHOUT
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JOYCE: IF YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF AND VALUE YOURSELF
THERE IS NOTHING ELSE IN YOUR LIFE THAT'S GONNA BE ENJOYABLE
OR IN THE RIGHT ORDER.
[MUSIC]
JOYCE: TODAY, NOW, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
EMOTIONAL HEALTH.
EMOTIONAL HEALTH, YES.
GOOD, TWO PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I'LL PREACH TO THE TWO OF YOU.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: ARE YOU EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY?
WELL, TO BE HONEST, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND
THAT ARE NOT EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY.
AND SOMETIMES OUR EMOTIONS ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
WE'RE WOUNDED IN OUR SOUL FROM THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO US
IN THE PAST AND WE GET OUT IN LIFE AND WE GET INTO
RELATIONSHIPS AND WE TRY TO FUNCTION AND THINGS JUST DON'T
WORK OUT.
TEMPER'S OUT OF CONTROL, SELF-PITY, DISCOURAGEMENT,
DEPRESSION, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHEN WE HAVE BAD BEHAVIOR THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL, WHEN WE HAVE
EMOTIONS THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL, THERE'S ALWAYS A ROOT
SOMEWHERE.
WE HEAR PEOPLE SAY A LOT, "WELL, WE JUST NEED TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF THIS."
HAVE YOU EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY REPEATEDLY AND OVER
AND OVER AND YOU'VE SAID THAT?
"WE JUST NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS."
WELL, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING IS, "THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN
WHAT'S APPEARING ON THE SURFACE.
AND WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS HERE."
I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN MY MARRIAGE, I JUST FELT LIKE THAT
DAVE AND I COULD NOT TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AND NOT ARGUE.
AND SO I WOULD ALWAYS SAY, WHICH JUST INFURIATED HIM, "WE JUST
CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING."
AND FINALLY HE SAID ONE DAY, "YOU KNOW, JOYCE, WE DON'T TALK.
YOU TALK AND YOU WANT ME TO LISTEN."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT GOD WILL GUIDE US INTO ALL
TRUTH AND THAT CAN SOUND SO LOVELY BUT LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GONNA HELP YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT
SOMEBODY ELSE.
HE WANTS TO REVEAL TRUTH TO YOU ABOUT YOU.
AND WE WORRY WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING
OR ARE NOT DOING AND WE NEED TO JUST OPEN OUR OWN LIVES UP TO
GOD AND SAY, "YOU DEAL WITH ME AND I'LL PRAY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE
AND YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT TOO."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WELL, DAVE AND I WOULD START TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
AND, HONESTLY, UNLESS HE AGREED WITH ME, THE FIGHT WAS ON.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND WE WOULD GET INTO THESE BIG ARGUMENTS AND I WOULD
GET SO CONFUSED.
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK, "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT ANYMORE.
IT WAS A SIMPLE THING.
HOW DID WE GET FROM THERE TO HERE?"
AND THEN I WOULD YELL, "WE--I CAN'T TALK TO YOU.
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING."
DOES ANYBODY RECOGNIZE THAT?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: OKAY, I'M ABOUT TO HELP YOU.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: FREE COUNSELING AND ALL I ASKED FOR WAS
A LITTLE OFFERING.
I'M NOT EVEN GONNA SEND YOU A BILL, YOU KNOW?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND SO I DID NOT KNOW WHAT MY PROBLEM WAS.
I MEAN, I JUST DIDN'T GET IT SO BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MY
PROBLEM WAS, I BLAMED IT ALL ON HIM.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO A LOT.
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOT OF OUR OWN PROBLEMS,
WE BLAME EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T GO RIGHT ON SOMEBODY ELSE.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU'RE UNHAPPY, YOU'RE SURE IT'S SOMEBODY
ELSE'S FAULT.
THEY SHOULD BE MAKING YOU HAPPY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: IT WAS A BIG CHANGE FOR ME WHEN GOD TOLD ME,
"YOU NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN HAPPINESS.
NOBODY ELSE CAN KEEP YOU HAPPY AND NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU UNHAPPY
IF YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE UNHAPPY."
WELL, SEE, WE DON'T LIKE TAKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S FAR TOO EASY TO JUST BLAME, BLAME, BLAME, ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO I STARTED PRAYING ABOUT WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM WAS AND IT
DIDN'T TAKE GOD VERY LONG TO SHOW ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: THAT'S THE WAY HE GOES.
AND THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, WAS I HAD A ROOT
OF REJECTION IN MY SOUL FROM THE WAY I WAS RAISED.
AND UNTIL THAT ROOT WAS DEALT WITH, THE FRUIT IN MY LIFE WAS
NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
SO WHEN YOU ARE A REJECTION-BASED PERSON OR
YOU'RE AFRAID OF REJECTION, IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH
YOU, YOU FEEL REJECTED.
AND SO IF DAVE AND I WERE TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, IF HE
DIDN'T AGREE WITH ME, THEN I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SEPARATE
WHO I WAS FROM MY OPINION.
AND SO I HAD TO LEARN THAT JUST BECAUSE HE DISAGREED WITH MY
OPINION, DIDN'T MEAN HE WAS REJECTING ME.
HE COULD REJECT MY OPINION AND STILL LOVE ME.
AND THAT WAS SUCH A MAJOR THING TO ME.
SO MAYBE YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU CAN'T SEEM TO TALK TO PEOPLE OR A CERTAIN PERSON
WITHOUT BLOWING UP IN ANGER ALL THE TIME, THEN ASK GOD TO HELP
YOU GET TO THE ROOT OF IT AND MAYBE ASK GOD, "DO I HAVE--YOU
KNOW, HOW DO I FEEL WHEN SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH ME?"
DO I FEEL INSULTED?
DO I FEEL LIKE THEY THINK I'M STUPID?
DO I FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T RESPECT ME?
DO I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING REJECTED?
AND LEARN HOW TO BE A PERSON IN CHRIST WHO IS LOVED AND VALUED
AND SEPARATE THAT FROM WHAT YOU THINK AND WHAT YOU DO AND ALL
THOSE OTHER MORE EXTERIOR THINGS.
DOES ANYBODY IN THE BUILDING THINK THAT MAYBE YOU'RE STILL
DEALING WITH A LITTLE ROOT OF REJECTION IN YOUR LIFE?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: THAT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU STICK AROUND WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING
FOR EVERYBODY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: ROOTS.
WHERE THERE'S ROTTEN FRUIT, THERE'S A ROTTEN ROOT
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
AND SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA GO BEFORE THE LORD AND SAY,
"I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY TEAR MY LIFE APART,
I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM, TO THE ROOT, OF WHY I'M ANGRY,
WHY I GET SO ANGRY.
WHY DO I GET MAD EVERY TIME I DON'T GET MY WAY?
WHY ARE MY EMOTIONS OUT OF CONTROL?
WHY DO I WASTE SO MANY DAYS IN SELF-PITY, AMEN?
AUDIENCE: AMEN.
JOYCE: MATTHEW 12:33 SAYS THAT IF THE TREE IS ROTTEN AND
DISEASED, THEN THE FRUIT WILL BE ROTTEN AND DISEASED.
"EITHER MAKE THE TREE SOUND (HEALTHY AND GOOD), AND ITS
FRUIT SOUND (HEALTHY AND GOOD), OR MAKE THE TREE ROTTEN
(DISEASED AND BAD), AND ITS FRUIT ROTTEN (DISEASED AND BAD);
FOR THE TREE IS KNOWN AND RECOGNIZED AND JUDGED
BY ITS FRUIT."
AS BELIEVERS IN CHRIST, WE'RE NOT RECOGNIZED BY OUR
BUMPER STICKER.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: YOU CAN PUT THE BIGGEST, MOST SPARKLY CROSS
AROUND YOUR NECK THAT YOU CAN BUY IN ANY STORE AND, TO BE
HONEST, THAT DOESN'T TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY ANYMORE.
I USED TO THINK THAT MEANT SOMETHING.
BUT I'VE LEARNED THAT YOU'VE GOTTA BE A GOOD FRUIT
INSPECTOR, AMEN?
NOW, MY MOTHER HAD EMOTIONAL ILLNESS.
SHE ACTUALLY HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN, TOOK SHOCK TREATMENTS
FOR 2 YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DID WITH PEOPLE BACK IN
THOSE DAYS AND IT WAS JUST BAD.
NOW, SHE HAD A SITUATION THAT WAS FAR TO THE EXTREME BUT THE
ROOT OF HER PROBLEM WAS SHE SPENT YEARS AVOIDING DEALING
WITH WHAT MY FATHER WAS DOING TO ME, EVEN THOUGH SHE KNEW IT
AND HAD ACTUALLY CAUGHT HIM.
YOU CANNOT AVOID YOUR PROBLEMS.
BURIED THINGS WILL EAT YOU ALIVE.
OUR SECRETS MAKE US SICK, AMEN?
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO GOD OPENLY ABOUT
EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE AND, IF NEED BE, TO TALK TO
SOMEONE ELSE.
SHE ALSO WAS OVERLOADED WITH GUILT ALL OF HER LIFE BECAUSE
SHE DIDN'T DEAL WITH WHAT SHE SHOULD HAVE DEALT WITH.
AND SO GUILT CAN EVEN MAKE YOU EMOTIONALLY ILL.
IF YOU WOULD EVER GO TO A MENTAL INSTITUTION WHICH I'VE DONE AS
PART OF MINISTRY YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
WE WOULD GO, TRY TO VISIT THE PEOPLE, AND IT WAS AMAZING
TO ME, HOW MANY PEOPLE WALKED AROUND IN ALMOST A CATATONIC
STATE AND MOST OF THEM WERE SAYING--WELL, NOT MOST BUT MANY
OF THEM WERE SAYING, "IT'S ALL MY FAULT.
IT WAS ALL MY FAULT.
IT WAS ALL MY FAULT."
SO I'M TELLING YOU, GOING AROUND WITH GUILT ALL THE TIME IS NOT
THE WAY GOD WANTS YOU TO LIVE.
WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG, YOU NEED TO REPENT, ASK GOD TO
FORGIVE YOU, AND THEN LET GO OF WHAT LIES BEHIND AND PRESS ON.
AND IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE, NOW LISTEN TO ME, IF YOU
HAVE PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO AVOID AND
YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH THEM, THEY ARE GOING TO JUST KEEP
HURTING YOU UNTIL YOU GET THE COURAGE YOU NEED FROM
THE HOLY GHOST TO FACE THESE THINGS
AND DEAL WITH 'EM.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: MY MOTHER LET MY DAD ABUSE HER.
HE WOULD GO OUT AND DRINK.
HE WOULD COME HOME AND BEAT HER UP.
AND SHE'D GET UP THE NEXT MORNING AND COOK HIS BREAKFAST.
AND I WANTED TO THROW UP.
AND I CAME OUT OF THAT THINKING, "NOBODY IS EVER GOING TO PUSH ME
AROUND AGAIN."
AND SO I HAD A BAD ATTITUDE THAT HAD TO BE CORRECTED BY GOD.
YEAH, C'MON, SOME OF YOU ARE FEELING ME OUT THERE,
YOU GET IT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: NOBODY'S GONNA TELL ME WHAT TO DO AGAIN.
NOBODY'S EVER GONNA PUSH ME AROUND.
THE PROBLEM FOR ME WAS THEN THAT I WAS SO OUT OF BALANCE THAT IF
ANYBODY EVEN WANTED ME TO DO ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T WANNA DO,
RIGHT AWAY I THOUGHT THEY WERE TRYING TO CONTROL ME AND ALL MY
WALLS WENT UP.
C'MON.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL SAY SOMETIMES, "WELL, YOU'RE JUST
A CONTROL FREAK."
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THEY'VE GOT WOUNDS
IN THEIR PAST AND THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES FROM GETTING HURT AGAIN AND SO PEOPLE FEEL LIKE--I
FELT LIKE IF I DIDN'T WORK REALLY HARD TO KEEP EVERYTHING
IN MY LIFE IN ITS--WHERE I KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS GONNA
HAPPEN, THAT SOMEBODY WAS GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ME.
CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING TODAY AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO
FORGET THIS.
HURTING PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE.
AND SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH IN THE WORLD THAT
WE JUDGE AND CRITICIZE AND SHUT OUT OF OUR LIVES, THEY HAVE BEEN
HURT AND NOW THEY'RE HURTING SOMEBODY ELSE.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO STAY IN RELATIONSHIP
WITH SOMEBODY THAT IS ABUSING YOU AND HURTING YOU.
MY MOTHER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM MY FATHER.
SHE DID NOT DO THE RIGHT THING FOR HER, FOR MYSELF, OR MY
BROTHER WHO ENDED UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO, COMMITTING SUICIDE
BECAUSE OF ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAD GONE ON IN OUR
FAMILY THAT NOBODY EVER DEALT WITH PROPERLY.
BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM SOMEBODY PHYSICALLY
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T PRAY FOR THEM AND TRUST GOD FOR THEM
TO CHANGE.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU EVEN HAVE TO SAY A LOT OF
BAD THINGS ABOUT THEM.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HURTING INSIDE.
AND, BOY, WE ARE GREAT IN THE CHURCH WORLD ABOUT COMING
TOGETHER AND WEARING OUR CHURCH FACE AND, MAN, WE ARE ALWAYS,
"I'M FINE, PRAISE THE LORD."
AND IF YOU ARE, I THINK THAT'S GREAT BUT, IF YOU'RE NOT,
BE HONEST.
CHURCH IS JUST A HOSPITAL FOR A BUNCH OF MESSED-UP,
WOUNDED PEOPLE.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND IF WE'LL JUST QUIT PRETENDING THAT WE'RE ALL OKAY
ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, EVEN LEADERS SOMETIMES, THEY'VE GOT SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND
THEY ESPECIALLY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY CAN TALK TO BECAUSE, BOY,
THEN THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE JUDGED AND CRITICIZED.
AND WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS A BUNCH OF WOUNDED HEALERS.
WE NEED PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP TO REALLY GET THEIR
ISSUES STRAIGHTENED OUT WITH GOD BECAUSE THE BLIND CAN'T LEAD
THE BLIND.
AND I TELL YOU, I'VE STILL GOT ISSUES AND PROBLEMS
BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING.
IF I DO, I'LL TELL YOU.
AND WHEN I TELL YOU WHAT JESUS CAN DO FOR YOU, I'M TELLING YOU
BECAUSE HE'S DONE IT FOR ME.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND MANY TIMES, MANY TIMES, WHEN I TEACH, ALL YOU'RE
DOING IS EATING OFF MY PLATE.
IT'S WHAT GOD HAS FED ME FIRST.
AND YOU'RE GETTING IT FIRSTHAND.
SO I WANNA TALK TO YOU FOR A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING ABOUT
THE ROOTS OF YOUR BEING, BEING PLANTED DEEP IN A KNOWLEDGE
THAT GOD LOVES YOU.
AND THAT HE LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY.
GOD IS LOVE.
IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT HE DOES.
HE DOESN'T TURN IT ON AND OFF.
IT'S WHO HE IS.
GOD IS LOVE.
HE DOESN'T LIKE EVERYTHING WE DO.
HE PROBABLY DESPISES SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO.
BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO SEPARATE YOUR WHO FROM YOUR DO.
I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.
I ALWAYS LOVE THEM BUT, BOY, SOMETIMES--
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU FEEL WHAT I'M SAYING AND I DON'T EVEN
NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER, AMEN?
YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE LOVED AND THAT YOU ARE VALUABLE
AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T ALL GET TO HEAR JOHN MCFADDEN'S TESTIMONY
ON THURSDAY NIGHT BUT IF I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK DOWNLOAD.
HE WAS A MAN WHO HAD AN ALCOHOLIC MOTHER.
HIS FATHER DIED WHEN HE WAS YOUNG.
IS THAT CORRECT OR DID HE LEAVE THE HOME?
HE LEFT.
WAS LEFT WITH AN ALCOHOLIC MOTHER WHO WAS VIOLENT.
HAD A BROTHER.
THEY WERE TOLD ALL THE TIME THEY WERE TRASH.
THE ONE BROTHER WAS--MOTHER ACTUALLY PACKED UP HIS STUFF,
TOOK HIM OUTSIDE, AND SAT HIM IN THE TRASH AND SAID, "YOU'RE
TRASH AND IF YOUR FATHER DOESN'T COME AND GET YOU, THEN
THE TRASHMEN CAN TAKE YOU AWAY."
AND SHE THREATENED HIM ALL THE TIME, "I'M GONNA PUT YOU IN
THE TRASH.
I'M GONNA PUT YOU IN THE TRASH."
FINALLY, WHEN HE WAS 14, SHE RAN HIM OFF AND HE WAS LEFT, AS
A 14-YEAR-OLD, TO TRY TO FEND FOR HIMSELF.
WELL, BECAUSE HE FELT LIKE HE WAS TRASH, HE WENT INTO THE
CYCLE THAT I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE THAT I
WAS IN AND MANY OF YOU ARE IN, OF TRYING TO PROVE BY
THE WORLD'S STANDARDS THAT HE HAD WORTH AND VALUE.
AND SO WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS COMES TO SET US FREE,
I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
YOU ARE NOT FREE AT ALL UNTIL YOU NO LONGER FEEL A NEED TO
IMPRESS PEOPLE.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: SEE, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET UP AND, LIKE, I MEAN, WITH
ME, PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT IT IS.
AND THANK GOD I GOT OVER THE NEED TO TRY TO GET UP HERE AND
IMPRESS PEOPLE MANY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THAT IS EXHAUSTING HARD
WORK, AMEN?
YOU CAN'T FALL APART WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE YOU.
YOU CAN'T FALL APART IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT YOU IN THEIR LIFE
ANYMORE.
DON'T ALWAYS ASSUME THAT YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM.
MAYBE THEY GOT A PROBLEM, AMEN?
AND SO HE JUST WENT THROUGH ALL KINDS OF CRAZY STUFF AND THEN
FINALLY GOT A HOLD OF THE WORD AND GOD'S BEEN HEALING HIM
AND NOW HE USES HIS PAIN TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.
AND SO I KNOW AS I GO THROUGH THIS THING THAT I'M GETTING
READY TO GO THROUGH HERE, HE'S GONNA RECOGNIZE A LOT OF
THIS STUFF.
BUT MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY THAT ATTENDED MY
CONFERENCES GOT THIS LITTLE THING FROM GOD AND WROTE IT DOWN
AS A CHART AND SHE'S GIVEN US PERMISSION TO USE IT.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE "TRICKLE-DOWN THEORY
OF CONDITIONAL LOVE AND THE TRICKLE-DOWN THEORY
OF UNCONDITIONAL LOVE."
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT HOW YOU'RE RAISED, TO BE HONEST,
HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
AND IF YOU WERE RAISED WRONG, THEN YOU HAVE TO UNLEARN SOME
THINGS AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE LEARNING SOME THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOUR MIND RENEWED.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'VE BEEN MISTREATED, YOU ALWAYS HAVE
A SHAME-BASED NATURE AND YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT YOURSELF.
AND NOW, LISTEN TO WHAT I'M GONNA SAY AND I SAY THIS
ALL THE TIME.
BUT THIS IS THE MORNING TO SAY IT AGAIN.
IF YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF AND VALUE YOURSELF, THERE IS NOTHING
ELSE IN YOUR LIFE THAT'S GONNA BE ENJOYABLE OR IN
THE RIGHT ORDER.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOURSELF?
HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT YOURSELF?
HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT YOU?
WHAT KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP DO YOU HAVE WITH YOURSELF?
YOU'RE ONE PERSON YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GET AWAY FROM.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BECAUSE EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THERE YOU ARE.
OOPS, IT'S ME AGAIN.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND I THINK WE DON'T--WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OURSELF.
YOU CAN'T LOVE SOMEBODY ELSE IF YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF.
YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH SOMEBODY ELSE IF YOU DON'T GET
ALONG WITH YOURSELF.
AND SO WHEN YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF, WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW
THAT GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY AND THAT YOU'RE
IN A HEALING PROCESS IN YOUR LIFE AND THAT ALTHOUGH YOU'RE
NOT WHERE YOU NEED TO BE, THANK GOD YOU'RE GROWING, YOU'RE NOT
WHERE YOU USED TO BE, YOU CAN ENJOY THE JOURNEY.
THEN HERE'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS.
NOW THIS IS A LITTLE LONG.
I'M GONNA TAKE TIME, THOUGH, TO STOP AND DO A LITTLE TEACHING
ALONG THE WAY.
SO I BELIEVE, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE TIME I WAS A KID, I ALWAYS
HAD AN AWARENESS OF GOD.
AND WHEN I WAS 9 YEARS OLD I ACTUALLY SNEAKILY WENT OFF TO
CHURCH WITH SOME RELATIVES THAT WE WERE VISITING AND I WENT WITH
THE INTENTION OF BEING BORN AGAIN.
NOW I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW HOW I KNEW--ALL I CAN SAY IS GOD WAS
JUST HELPING ME AND GUIDING ME.
AND SO I DID RECEIVE CHRIST AS MY SAVIOR AS A 9-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
THE NEXT DAY, I CHEATED IN A GAME OF HIDE-AND-GO-SEEK
AND THE DEVIL TOLD ME THAT I'D LOST MY SALVATION.
AND FROM THEN UNTIL I WAS A YOUNG WOMAN IN MY 20S,
I NEVER HAD ANY KIND OF ACTIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
BUT I CAN LOOK BACK NOW AND SAY WHEN I WAS ABOUT 9 YEARS OLD,
I DIDN'T CONNECT THE DOTS FOR A WHILE BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WHEN
I WAS ABOUT 9 YEARS OLD A STRENGTH CAME INTO ME TO
OVERCOME THE SITUATION THAT I WAS IN.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH GOD DIDN'T GET ME OUT OF THE ABUSIVE
SITUATION, HE DID GIVE ME THE GRACE TO GO THROUGH IT AND, I'LL
BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT EVEN SORRY NOW THAT I DID GO THROUGH
IT BECAUSE GOING THROUGH IT IS PART OF WHAT HAS MADE ME WHO I
AM AND IT'S DEFINITELY WHAT ENABLES ME TO BE ABLE TO HELP
OTHER PEOPLE WITH THEIR STUFF.
BUT BECAUSE I--SO I KNEW GOD AND I KNEW--I EVEN BELIEVED THAT
GOD LOVED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I BELIEVED THAT HE LOVED ME BUT, IF I DID
BELIEVE AT ALL THAT HE LOVED ME, I BELIEVED THAT HIS LOVE WAS
CONDITIONAL.
BECAUSE ALL THE LOVE THAT I EVER WAS TOLD THAT I WAS GETTING,
WHICH REALLY NONE OF WHAT I GOT WAS LOVE, BUT ANY LITTLE FAVOR
THAT I DID GET OR ANY PRIVILEGE THAT I GOT, I HAD TO PAY FOR.
AND IT WAS ALL CONDITIONED ON MY WORKS AND MY BEHAVIOR.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, OKAY?
ARE YOU STILL OKAY OUT THERE? YOU'RE NOT--YOU'RE--
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: YOU'RE GETTING IT, ALL RIGHT?
YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT NOT BE A FUNNY DAY BUT IT'S GONNA
BE--YOU'RE GONNA REALLY LEARN SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HELP
YOU IN THE FUTURE.
ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IS TEACH YOUR
CHILDREN THAT THEY'RE LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE TO CORRECT YOUR CHILDREN OR TAKE
A PRIVILEGE AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE OF SOME BAD BEHAVIOR,
ALWAYS REITERATE TO THEM, "I'M ONLY DOING THIS BECAUSE I
LOVE YOU.
I WILL NEVER STOP LOVING YOU.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU ARE LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY.
BUT I DO HAVE TO HELP YOU DEAL WITH THE BAD BEHAVIOR."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND IT'S VERY GOOD TO LOVE OTHER PEOPLE
UNCONDITIONALLY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU LIKE EVERYTHING THEY DO.
BUT YOU JUST STILL LOVE THEM.
SO HERE'S KIND OF THE WAY IT GOES.
IF THE ROOT OF YOUR LIFE IS, WELL, THE LOVE I GET IS BASED ON
CONDITIONS, THEN I MIGHT THINK, "WELL, JESUS LOVES ME BUT HE
LOVES ME CONDITIONALLY.
THEREFORE, HIS LOVE IS BASED ON MY PERFORMANCE."
NOW, YOU SEE, RIGHT AWAY, I'M TAKING ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR MAKING THIS RELATIONSHIP WORK AND I'M THINKING, NOW,
EVERYTHING THAT I GET FROM GOD I'VE GOTTA BUY IT WITH
GOOD BEHAVIOR.
AND I HAVE A GOOD PIECE OF NEWS FOR YOU TODAY.
GOD IS NOT FOR SALE.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: YOU CAN'T BUY HIM WITH 5 HOURS OF PRAYER EVERY MORNING,
READING HALF THE BIBLE EVERY MONTH, DOING GOOD WORKS.
EVERYTHING--NOW, LISTEN TO ME.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR GOD SHOULD ALWAYS BE DONE BECAUSE WE
LOVE HIM, NOT TO GET HIM TO LOVE US.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: C'MON.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: SO WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU ARE LOVED.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE'RE LOVED AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT
EVEN WORTH BEING LOVED, APART FROM CHRIST.
BUT HE LOVES OUR LIVES BACK FROM THE PIT OF DESTRUCTION.
MY GOODNESS, HOW GOOD IS THAT?
HE LOVES MY LIFE BACK FROM THE PIT OF DESTRUCTION.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: BOY, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOVED.
AND IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT GOD LOVES YOU, THEN YOU CAN BEGIN TO
LOVE YOURSELF.
AND WHEN YOU BEGIN TO LOVE YOURSELF THEN YOU CAN BEGIN TO
LOVE OTHER PEOPLE AND YOU CAN HAVE HEALTHY, GOOD RELATIONSHIPS
AND YOU CAN ENJOY YOUR LIFE, AMEN?
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: SO IF I THINK THAT GOD'S LOVE FOR ME IS BASED ON MY
PERFORMANCE, THEN I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO EARN HIS LOVE
BY PLEASING HIM.
THEREFORE, WHEN I PLEASE HIM AND I LOVE THIS PART, I FEEL LOVED
AND WHEN I DON'T PLEASE HIM, I FEEL REJECTED.
NOW, YOU SEE, THIS IS WHERE THE CRAZY EMOTIONS COME IN.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE FEEL IS NOT TRUE.
C'MON.
MATTER OF FACT, A LOT OF WHAT WE FEEL IS NOT TRUE.
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