ZACHARY: Hello, hello, hello.
It is me Zachary Fenell, the cerebral palsy vigilante, author, entrepreneur.
I usually put those in a different order but that's fine.
Ah I'm just thrown off because I'm in a different setting today.
MIKE: (laughs)
ZACHARY: I'm on location!
Ah and you know recently, in recent months I've been coming to you with individuals from
my family and friends and kind of talking about different things, a lot mentioned in
my memoir.
Today is going to be a little bit different.
We're eventually, this is my cousin Mike.
So, today Mike reached out to me after ah watching my videos with my parents, in-particular
especially those two with my mother and father which in the end screen here I will ah link
to those so you guys, just in case you missed them and like well kind of get an idea of where
that was coming from but it was really, you know Mike saw a theme about ah God, first
and foremost about God from those videos that I know he wanted to touch upon along with
the idea of cerebral palsy treatment or from a different, you know what Mike want don't
we start by you giving a little bit, the whole theme of this video is going to be pretty
much keeping an open mind to alternative medicine outside of just westernized medicine.
So Mike why don't you give us a little background to how you've come into ah how you came into
I guess the altern, alternative medicine scene?
MIKE: Okay.
Um first of all we're both not doctors so don't take any of this for, for what it is.
You should always do your own research and understand and try to get as much knowledge enough knowledge
as you can and make the make best decisions off of that situation.
ZACHARY: Important disclaimer.
MIKE: Yeah, very, very, very important but ah I came across it when ah I was looking
through cancer treatments for my parents and um also different ah ran into different doctors
and I also looked up vaccines for my kids and just different stuff and I ran into different
stuff and how stress can actually cause a big role in your life and how you can do to
manage that to make it an easier way to try to help try heal yourself more.
Um or to understand what you have and to ah implement that into your life on a daily basis.
Um the whole God thing is there are a lot of references from God um or from the bible I
should say into the different kinds of medicines there are out there today and um like one
of the sayings is um "Many of my children will be ah will die and be destroyed from
lack of knowledge."
Um so knowledge is very powerful and you should really do your research when it comes to anything
healing yourself or putting anything in your body.
Um that's pretty much you know the main thing.
The main thing for stress is you want to um your vitamin Bs are very good for you.
Essential oils, um
ZACHARY: Retrospect for a second there,
you're mentioning stress.
So you're going from the perspective of that the idea of having a label, a diagnosis,
well albeit to, your main your mainly, your main area of expertise is going to be coming
from is dealing with your parents and their cancers
MIKE: Right, right.
ZACHARY: And figuring out and but the whole idea is that whether cerebral palsy, cancer,
whatev, that there is it can trigger additional stress
MIKE: Right, right.
ZACHARY: Instead of
It basically
MIKE: It can cause other things.
ZACHARY: Yeah.
You become your own worse enemy.
MIKE: Exactly!
Yes.
exactly.
It cause, it cause different other problems in your body besides your cerebral palsy or
whatever else you're dealing with.
Um, what else is there to, what were we talking about?
Like God and um
ZACHARY: I know I interrupted you around the
vitamin B, you were going into some of those MIKE: Yeah, I was just those were a couple
of samples but there are other stuff.
I'm sure like mediation and praying, getting closer to God.
Understanding (Dog shakes) your disease, how the best way to cure it.
I mean there is raw organic live foods that actually help your brain.
Ah I have a couple list of them here that are like ah broccoli, turmeric, walnuts, blueberries,
flax seed oil, tomato, green tea.
Those are just some small examples, but you want raw live organic foods because when you
cook or steam anything that's when you lose your nutrition out of those live foods so
you'll see a lot of different people on Youtube talking about how they reversed their disease
or virus or whatever they have going on with just changing their diet to live organic raw
foods and essential oils and stuff like that.
So it is always something to look at into.
There is not a whole lot of side effects into that stuff.
So you know you always want to follow your directions when you're getting oils or whatever
you are doing but um always follow directions and take it easy and slow step into it and
it's always good to do before you go into western medicine because that can actually
help you out before you even go into that kind of stuff.
ZACHARY: A lot of different points I could jump off with there.
I'm trying to decide which one.
I had a joke about MIKE: (chuckles)
ZACHARY: how parents should cue up their, should cue up this video to whatever point
and say "See this guy said you should eat your broccoli.
It's not just me."
MIKE: (laughs) ZACHARY: It won't, it won't work with your
kids because they'll go "Oh, that's just Dad."
MIKE: We don't listen to Dad.
We listen to Mom. (laughs) ZACHARY: (laughs) But then you so a lot of
it is really self-care. You know I think
You mentioned about curing and it really does depend on what medical issue you are dealing
with because you know cerebral palsy for instance is just by fact is it's not curable.
There is no cure for
That doesn't mean you can't do things to improve it
MIKE: Yes.
ZACHARY: and just about treatment and we were talking right before we hit record on this
I was talking about how I'm 29 and in my adult life I feel like I'm in the best shape.
Well maybe technically not, my shoulder has been bothering me a little bit this week and
I don't know if it's because I was shoveling snow earlier.
You know damn you Cleveland weather.
MIKE: (chuckles) ZACHARY: Ah I don't know what but for the
most part in general I feel I'm in my healthiest you know best shape.
I did a half marathon in October where if you would've told me 10 years ago I would've
been doing 13.1 miles I would've said no way that's possible.
So it really, but in doing that, doing certain exercises for me you know it does come down
to eating you know eating healthy too but for me a lot of it was regular exercise and
that essentially is kind of like a natural remedy.
It's MIKE: Yeah.
ZACHARY: I built stronger.
I improved my balance.
So there is MIKE: Yep.
ZACHARY: definitely validity, validity there from my experience.
And you mentioned a couple and this where I really wanted to get to.
You mentioned a couple that you'll find people on Youtube who can kind of help walk you through,
give you some 101, well 101 on these alternative options.
MIKE: Mhmm.
ZACHARY: Do you, is there a particular two or three Youtube ah channels or individuals
on Youtube that you would suggest people out this watching right now wanting to go beyond
general and learn more, is there a particular Youtube channels or individuals on Youtube
that you recommend they checkout?
MIKE: Um well there is a couple I follow (phone rings).
It is Dr. Axe.
He is on Youtube only. I've only seen him on Youtube. So but he lays out a bunch of different
videos of natural stuff that will help you cure different problems, like skin problems
or anything you can think of.
He has a million videos out there.
Also there is Dr. Leonard Cor, Corwell, Coldwell, Coldwell.
Um he also explains a whole lot.
He makes a lot of sense you know.
He goes whatever we didn't have 100 years ago, we really don't need it.
But that's his explanation but you should always do your own research and see what's
good for you.
Like we said earlier, like the video the name of this is probably going to be "Knowledge
is Power" because this literally is what the message is.
You need to do your research.
Get your knowledge because otherwise you are just going to be another statistic like everyone else.
ZACHARY: Well now I kind of feel like I'm shoehorned into including "Knowledge is Power"
somewhere in that title but you know it really is important to do your research.
I'm glad you spoke up and were like "Hey.
Bring me, let's do a video so we can talk about some of these alternative."
You know the main thing this video, because this is going to be maybe somewhere between
ah 10 and 15 minutes and there is no way you can even start getting every, anything, you can barely
start getting everything covered in 10, 15 minutes.
So this is just more or less a wake up call to kind of open your mind.
You know if you feel like western, you know westernized medicine is you know you're satisfied
with that you know, you know what, you know it doesn't what hurt, what will it hurt you?
And let's face it.
I take um, I'm on a prescription muscle relaxer baclofen.
So I'm not coming here from the standpoint of I rub this oil on my hamstrings and their
are not suddenly as tight.
You know there not as tight.
I'm coming from like I'm a part of that western medicine culture where I am on a prescription
medicine but its still helpful to do your research and again like I said it, that alone though
isn't only going to get me so far.
When I started doing exercises regularly it takes me to a whole another level and who
knows what, whatever, whatever issues you're researching and you know Mike made a great point about
doing your own research.
Don't just sit here and like well these two guys said this so...
I have to find more res, I have to.
Do your own research.
You know would you say, would you say this is a part of the God thing is when you are
doing your own reading, research you are going to come across something and you are going to kind
of like feel whether or not that's right for you?
MIKE: Yes.
ZACHARY: In a way that would be God's intervention to you telling you like you should do this
or should give this a try.
MIKE: Yes.
Trust your gut.
That is mainly what it is all about.
I mean if you feel like something is not good for you, you probably shouldn't do it and
I just again all I can tell you is do your research.
That's all there is to it.
You don't take anything for face value, ever.
Ever.
Doesn't matter who it is.
Even if it is your parents.
Everybody means the best.
Doctors mean the best.
They want to help you, but its what they are taught and what they, what they were taught
to be taught and not how to you know think for themselves.
So it's kind of very, it's very touchy subject for different people.
I mean ah like I can't get my mother to agree that you know health, good health
is going to change your life.
Like she is just a big believer in western medicine and that's, you just not going to change people's
minds because first of all we're not doctors so you can't just sit there and just start
telling people you need to take something because you looked it up.
I mean they, people need to actually you know I don't know how else to explain it.
ZACHARY: Yeah.
MIKE: I mean its ZACHARY: You do your own research and if it
feels right, and you know when at, talking with, (sighs) I take it your kids see doctors
MIKE: Yes, yes.
ZACHARY: You know do you, do you are you questioning those doctors regularly?
MIKE: Yes, yes.
ZACHARY: What kind of, do you get resistance from them?
MIKE: Yes. ZACHARY: What's that like?
MIKE: Like we went to go talk to our pediatrician about vaccines and I had a whole list of stuff
that I was questioning him on and, and you know everything he is taught is to go against
everything I was bringing up to him.
So he would then would automatically just dismiss it and say its not true.
Well, okay am I just suppose to take your word for it?
Like actually show me a study or an actual like, like just in vaccines alone you know if even
do a little bit of research, you can see that most of the diseases were going away before
they even brought in the vaccine.
So if you ask him, they actually got rid of the diseases.
You know what I mean?
It all depends on where you are getting your information from, who you trust, and like
my wife trusts our doctor very well, ah very much I should say and just, just I don't know
why.
She says because he is nice.
(laughs) ZACHARY: (chuckles)
MIKE: To me perfectly, to be honest with you anybody can be nice and everybody means well
but it doesn't mean they know exactly what they are talking about.
So always question and always don't take anything for face value.
And again do your knowledge, research.
Get as much as you can to make the best decision for you and yourself
ZACHARY: Yeah MIKE: because your the only one living in
your body.
No one else is.
ZACHARY: And we, we're a I was going to say because we could go off on a whole philosophical
level with this MIKE: Yeah.
ZACHARY: And then I just you know I'm afraid there is not enough memory on my Kindle that
it's going to get to a point where it shuts down and oh no, we have to start all over!
MIKE: (Laughs) ZACHARY: So you know there, there's a whole,
the whole point of this video is just kind of be that wake up call to open your mind and
MIKE: Yes.
and just, just even if it just questioning, even if its continuing doing what you're doing.
Just questioning is this right for me and then doing some additional research.
As Mike said, it's important to do your own research.
So those couple of people he recommended I will make sure to put links in the description
of this video so you will be able to check those out.
Watch them for yourself and just decide whether or not they, whether or not they are something
you want to look more into.
Ah thanks for, well I guess um being the catalyst for this open minded discussion because let's
be, I'll be honest.
I had, if it wasn't for you after watching those videos and saying "Hey!
I want to go off on, I could go off on this" you know in the sense of my mother in her
video talking about the ah benefit of the Internet as a source of information.
MIKE: Mhhmm.
ZACHARY: If it wasn't for you, saying yeah I would love to talk about alternative medicine
like this video wouldn't be here.
We wouldn't be recording this video right now.
MIKE: Exactly.
ZACHARY: So thanks for that, thanks for being ah it's always good to have a reminder to
have an open mind and ah hopefully you've, you've found this beneficial and thanks for
watching.
Remember to subscribe to my channel.
Checkout those videos with my mother and father which are about to be linked to right now.
MIKE: Go Tribe!
ZACHARY: (laughs) Go Tribe!
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