May is Women's Health Month, and nobody can be a better advocate for
your health than you, yourself,
no one should care more about your body than
you. Right? Joining me this one is Nicole Wipp.
She is founder and lead attorney of
the Family and Aging Law Center
and she's here to really talk about how we can better advocate
for ourselves with health professionals.
And Nicole, welcome,
first of all, thank you for being here.
You have a tremendous,
unfortunately tremendous,
personal experience
with this. Yes.
What happened?
So, in 2014
I was experiencing a lot
of just weird symptoms
and I knew something wasn't right.
And so I was going to my doctor
and I was telling him, you know,
something's wrong.
I don't feel right.
There's definitely something wrong
with me. And he kept saying,
you know, basically, "It's all in your head."
You're having anxiety.
All these things but I knew though that I wasn't
really having anxiety.
I'm a mother,
I own a law firm,
of course I have all these things going on,
we're busy people, but I felt like this isn't anxiety,
but he wouldn't take me seriously.
Then in January of 2015,
I ended up in the hospital,
I was there for 30 days,
and I got diagnosed
with a rare lung disease
and I almost died while I was there.
So, it was a long journey that
led to this really,
crucial moment.
Do you feel that if you could have been...
And we are seeing some of the video
that you took during this
painful journey,
it took you almost a year to get diagnosed.
So,
your goal is to tell other women,
we have to be assertive, and there are things,
do you feel like along the way
you could have done things differently to get
an earlier diagnosis?
Oh, absolutely.
You know, I always say there's basically four
things that we should be doing
and some of which I didn't do,
for example,
even though I'm an attorney,
so you know somebody that's naturally
trained to be more assertive,
and knows how to speak
up,
I did what so many people do,
which I sort of, you know,
I didn't want to be troublesome.
I didn't want to cause a problem.
I was not trying to push back at the doctor
when he was telling me something.
I was trying to respect
his expertise.
So, you'd just sit there and listen?
That's what we do.
Yeah. And so,
I wasn't listening to my own
body, and so that was something that
I wish I would have done differently.
I wish I would have been assertive which is something that
I tell people you really need to be.
What does that mean? Be assertive.
You're not going to argue with the doctor.
No, no, no, no.
It's not about being aggressive.
What we're talking about is speaking up
for yourself.
Really articulating there is something
wrong. I know.
I feel something different.
These are then
the symptoms that I'm experiencing
and this is the difference it's making in my
life. This is the difference from what I felt like
before versus how I am now.
And that really tees up perfectly be prepared
because if you take some notes,
even if it's in your phone, I feel like,
if you're getting a symptom
or feeling funky,
whatever it is, put down the date
and write it, write it in some kind of
record.
And then when you show up you can say,
"No, this is what happened to me on Tuesday
and Wednesday," Right?
Exactly, like saying, "This is when I started noticing it.
These are the different things I've seen
over time. This is the difference
and how it makes me feel,"
so that you can really be specific
and you have sort of this evidence
and a record of what's happening.
You should bring others
with you to these appointments?
Well, if you are having a problem
being heard, one of the most effective
things that you can do is bring
somebody with you that can also advocate
on your behalf and also can
state to the
doctor or whoever is there,
"Yes. I've seen these things as
well. I've noticed a difference in my
loved one or this person that I care about,
and this is not just in their
head."
I was going to add to that sometimes the translation is good.
Sometimes, maybe the way you're saying
something, the way that the doctor is saying something,
it's good to have a third party there to say,
"I think what they mean is this," Right? Absolutely.
To help with the translation. Get a second opinion.
Should you always get a second opinion?
Well, I think that if you're not getting
the answers that you feel you
need to be hearing,
or that you don't feel are appropriate to what
you're experiencing,
then absolutely you need to get a second opinion.
And that doesn't need to be something that's adversarial.
It doesn't need to be like it's a fight.
It's the right thing to do.
It's what you need to do for your health.
Yeah, and a lot of doctors would encourage you to do
that. Absolutely. It should
not be insulting at all. Not at all. Good information
Nicole, thank you.
And where do people find you?
You can find me at Nicolewipp.com, or at Miestatelawyer.com.
And really has turned into a great advocate
to help women find good health
care and figure it out.
Thank you. Thank you.
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