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hello and welcome to this episode of
tech talk is a very unique platform
maybe talk to very inspiring and
interesting people and today I am very
proud to have with us a person who's in
a doctor and then turned into an IAS
officer and the present IT security of
the government of tamil nadu very
inspiring person a very innovative
person a person who I describe as a man
who will not keep quiet
whatever in any department and he is
coming up with innovations that are
mind-boggling - totosai and I'm so happy
to have him here with us in the studio
and we're going to have some very
interesting topics on this journey as a
New Year's officer we decided that this
is probably the best infrastructure and
and for the better thanks when it comes
today besides parks are full yes and
these easy locations are also getting
you know there's a demand for the land
was a spur equal tax and because you
know we treat something using a time in
money energy and this is all part of the
governmental thing and it's not for you
is if you are doing for population
actually the is is for that matter a
huge platform and in Tripoli conspires
to help you so 40 of the students under
candidates we have a founder plus
engineer all this so the accent should
be on high quality education because the
emerging technologies
yes you have block chaining committing
hit somebody wait something the copy
that ins writer again and see it
submitted for the further information
etc there is actually no element of
enthusiasm or you know happiness the way
the function so sometimes welcome to the
show it's an honor to have you here to
tick-tock inspectors and this is a
platform then we talk to very
interesting people not very assembly but
then try to kind of connect it to
technology so tell me I'll start from
the very beginnings at which I know that
you are a medical doctor right
and then how did this transition happen
from medicine to an IAS officer actually
this ambition was there the wine since
Fitzgerald when my father brought me the
first compositions accessory you boys
extra features so you know that kind of
Sabbath day's journey within but of
course you know you don't know because
so many like Ito right routing like you
write the examinations no there's no
surety that you might render from the
services 15 like I think from thousand
people we get into the Tootsie silks and
rasoi I is only 160 now at my time it
was 80 so this is definitely fallback
option course I joined engineering so it
was a very conscious decision it was a
very very conscious decision so when you
have that country I mean decision you
made even when you were
standard then weight medicine person
another stepping stone
actually it was I wanted to be an
engineer then a doctor and then an IAS
officer and I joined I engineering
intern the engineer what is he after
three months I got the main scene and
then so how was your stick Tessa
as a doctor I was not a very studious
very good student but I used to be
extremely concerned about people and
they help so during the house so it's
able to hang around the emergency boats
emergency especially the cash for the
people come with broken limbs etcetera
so I hang around and try to help so that
kind of has grounded me tonight because
when you find that you know people when
they have the faculties of metals it
pair a different person altogether very
vulnerable so my dad always been for me
to go one L so that out so I think
drives you in your now you're okay
that's a nice or that's right that's
right so I think that is very important
because then you are always looking for
opportunities to serve people so once
you got into that is your first time
think posting wasn't Krishnaveni it was
the first costume for nice offices
always as an assistant collector
training
oh you do a two-year training one year
it must will be in one year under the
district collector services in
collective training in district in due
respect okay then once your probation is
confirmed by the government and then you
get a new as a sub collector service
charges are collected still bra
okay then you become an addition
then you can Commission of corporation
then you become it's like what states do
you start taking decisions and at what
stage do you as a collector you take
decisions or as a sub collector also you
are able to take decision where you can
come up and use your creativity and your
ideas actually the is is for that matter
a huge platform and everybody conspires
to help you so I have it's been my
experience that no you know you can
start off at any point as an assistant
collect training I did a major program
called clean collector camp even maybe
protein inches we've got it you know
brand ambassadors we did a huge cleaning
of the campus so that decision was taken
by me so because of the tank is people
can attract good people and then choose
and so that's an advantage so decision
making is always you're not bound by who
your boss is or which particular
department that you serve your palm by
the rules and regulations and always
take away media and public interest hero
the point is that what decision you're
taking should always be in public
interest you should not be a for
personal interest and it should not be
for a interest of a group or a sector
the whole the value chain you have to
look at them whether the decision will
how the decision was affected population
so when you when you try to introduce
something which is for the benefit of
the citizens at large do you know some
kind of a homework like you said I think
sure there is benefits everybody so is
there a conscious you know research or
offer going into this thing no
government program stuff you know in a
way very difficult because
you know those cells pulls on before
watch before but if you are trying to do
something new innovative your personal
initiative extra definitely you these
things will play on a point
subconsciously do that but I think it's
very instinctive I mean for me it just
mean very instinctive it I think that
this is the right thing and I think work
so much so I I mean I have one person
who describes you as a man who will not
keep point you constantly keep doing
something in respect of whichever
department it is even in very what I
would say sometimes insignificant but
relatively it's significant Department
you've done wonders so how does it feel
to be put in the department which is not
all that important but still you're able
to you know make life-changing decisions
then actually the government has created
all this card up postings they call it
the ace is supposed to relate to certain
posts not to all the post so all 300
plus I is offices in Tamilnadu for
example are posted to those Carter posts
so that is actually a digital of the
basis of public need okay a public value
right so this has been orderly determine
that for example handicrafts to open
corporation is necessary for the
survival of artisans of the development
or there's that sector exit rap so
definitely it calls for leadership and
there are policies and programs in place
and there are sets of people working for
it and then the huge level of population
under that so no posts that forget for
the matters insignificant
that's the construct of the mind I would
say every post comes with
responsibilities you can be all that for
doing something wrong every post is
important okay also what what about the
documentation part now you are using
something in a department which is you
know
created and all that but once you are
not there then is there follow-ups or is
that the whole thing documented in such
a way that there will be followers see I
am at Howard University I told the
professor Michael move who is the person
who introduced what's called the freeze
three pillars for innovation and he said
these three pillars are satisfied then
innovation will succeed but I I went to
him and told him sell an innovation is
only as good as your successor think how
much of a localization you do whatever
you sustainability should be you bring
in the next person can easily say why do
you want to it Obamacare for the matter
it has got all the elements of
sustainability but mr. Trump comes and
says I will not move it now what do you
do about it
this is your the way that you can do so
documentation is good is like you doing
it but it's not it's not a success
factor for sustainability but doesn't
the company then want best practices to
be continued like you've done something
really good which is benefiting the
society or the community at large and
should will there be continuty in that
so ioud best practices at least you know
continue actually the government of
different governments give awards for
these kinds of innovations in
initiatives but more often than not we
then said with other words nobody is
actually system is like that nobody is
actually interested in promoting the
innovation of another person their egos
involved or rather so that's why I keep
saying usually to do something called
ego tax because you know you increase
something using a time
energy and these are part of the
government will think it's not for you
is if you're doing for population then
it's next person coming and the
opposition show is is impacted and they
are also part of it because it is their
tax money which is also used for doing
this and absolutely this is exactly the
reason why we should promote continuty
in government and that's why I keep I
keep telling you the government here and
we should mandate these things we should
say that the the shall continue listen
as long as there have been results yeah
but you know clung to the big big more
people not that time for smaller things
initiatives schemes and programmes which
common is kind of initiative right very
recently there was a I saw a post bed
somebody is appreciated the way the
government is more pure equally Santa
job so you know cyclones and they came
to the conclusion and that happened
because it was left to the bureaucracy
to handle it and they handled it
beautifully right down to the lower
possible person right from the character
of the distributor almost person so left
with a bureaucracy can they be far
better progress no III don't believe in
that actually what I my experiences mean
when there's a crisis actually are
quotations do very well because they are
in the public face right now okay things
that we've done in a jiffy so they join
extremely well with you
and the teamwork is extremely good so
it's not just because of your personal
reaction
I also exactly a vertical direction on
within the basis of which bureaucrats
are functional so no but I fully endorse
what you're saying I really believe with
that because I read this book called the
science of getting rich and that he very
clearly says if not for politicians
there will be enough people absolutely
so they are definitely necessary you
know whether the good or bad is is a
secondary thing but politician is
necessary otherwise they're not agree
with you on that so I remember the time
that you were collector of Krishnaveni I
mean I think you started it because you
have a whole lot of very very
interesting concepts like one of the
things you did a lot for the flower
industry actually there's a gimmick an
example of her predecessor successor
syndrome see then what happens is when
you go into a new organization none
nobody organization will tell what the
predecessors built because they are not
sure how we were disposed to that person
correct so if this was a case for the
flower also so the Monday through
Wednesday
these young english-speaking farmers
were spending the queue and they were
saying very collected for more collected
it's something I was asking my team what
is for me Belem there was not much of
response so they call these people and
then I found that he was collected in a
fantastic job he had managed to get
thousand hundred thousand eight farmers
into three clusters and got subsidy from
small farmers if you could scan social
miss the community near the price so
here it was waiting for them these
farmers to become you know big and
furnace only thing is that one he got
transferred the bank
not financing than one rupee from
against the subsidy that has been
released
oh I even after the bankers and let's
just history today all this back and all
this was a lot of attacks he's paid
completely and I'm coming home they
bring almost five lakh rupees worth of
flowers to my home whereas I require a
thousand rupee
I reckon that is my but it's all that
but that's their gratitude right we
don't also got a center of excellence in
flowers and in do a straight project
it's a lot of good because I was also
commissioned of horticulture and
plantation crops
so I did not take in liver that
particular project of nepotism you do
not just dye the national debt so that's
why I'm saying the it's all depends on
successor yeah and I think that is
something that is still being
appreciated yet make it clear if I see
some of the feedback about you I mean I
think that particular project is still
being spoken up that so I think even in
terms of ego it's a good thing right
yeah and then of course you had a small
stint as in the IT field is not as fast
and I had a fairly three-year stint as
an cotton deer bear trophy goons and
then I I think a lot of innovation
happened during that as well and that is
time I think you also set up your IT
parks in Pete Liske attachment so how is
that project going that's going well
actually the that decision was taken by
bad criticism is from Washington
amazing is officer so he in a hand and
he had this idea that you know we should
not really be in class one cities we
should more to the villages
he went on a trip or wrong Tamilnadu
trying to select class and world behold
we had around 70 locations with between
100 and 500 acres in each location yes
and then he managed to get the season
notifications for them so and then he
when he got transferred and I joined and
then I realized that he had already
designed the IT box right and the tender
was also done so then the question was
whether we should do the work because it
was a downturn 2008 yes economic
downturn had happened so that critical
decision was actually taken by me
honestly whether it was my chairman and
we decided that this was probably the
best time to construct and it will stand
for the better times when it comes today
most nights parks are full yes and these
things in locations are also getting you
know there's a demand for the land pools
as well
it was also kept those young people in
their own places rather than migration
to the city so today if you have good
bandwidth between bandwidth and talk
more internet bandwidth and good
regulatory connectivity IT both is
simple it can be done from anywhere so
these youngsters so we think would be
quality of the students the candidates
we have one founded + engineering
so the accent should be on high quality
education because the emerging
technologies are happening yes you have
block chaining have 3d you have all
kinds of technologies originally in
solutions which will react instantly so
these youngsters have unfortunately our
system many education system is where
you have a textbook which is determined
by somebody who is out of touch with
times or you know they would have
designed it when these things were not
there so I would rather that you know
this new syllabus should evolved from
the industry and then the students will
have an amazing time so is there any
initiative where the government is
trying to get this curriculum from the
registry that's right so those when I
joined as directory go nuts because
normal order for creating what's called
an ICT Academy so with that that is the
process we as a finishing school you
know whatever you don't learn in the
bridge may yards of rich pittance so
these students go through the courses
that they offer or the seminars they are
exit ramp and then the industry will be
able to absorb these tools but it's not
happening as a as a matter of fact in
the sense you know they do it off and on
but still me concept of the Germans in
this South Korean smithy industry
determines the syllabus still out there
I look forward to that day but it is
happening medicine isn't it the
pharmaceutical industry to a large
extent influences the curriculum of the
field which is not really wait I will
say so okay after that I T where this
thing you were then I think culture and
I still refer in horticulture even your
office didn't have a single front and
then you introduce all those thing or we
evolved completely transformed the thing
so one of the I think common
characteristics and I as
noticing in us that wherever you go you
are transforming things you know today
of the the Steve Jobs who said we are no
longer in the information age but we you
come into the transformation in judgment
so unless you remove something which
does not transform love is of no use and
I think better the Yukon you kind of
made it a point to transform the lives
of people beat horticultural feed to
your ink in medicine and all the picture
because I've come to Nixon yet but it's
in part but how the culture again I
think you were able to introduce another
garden and column if I partly out of
coupons equally box is a large forty
fifty acre forms which my predecessor
design actually so again I continue that
completed us we have fantastic box call
across tomorrow how to catch the
department became completely online and
figures from the field
so all these specially actually also in
the kind of material or the pump sets
which are given to Thomas you are able
to keep track of whatever geofence
because there's a lot of corruption in
that so we could you fence those
locations and if you see before during
and after five photographs each that
need to go by a software for payment
right actually see you always use
technology irrespective of the children
Department you've gone you use
technology for example the first thing
that one notices when when somebody
comes to your office is the paperless
office that's right you know and I've
also seen doing your talks the before
office and the after office visit of
course we got drastic change in the way
but to that extent are you stuff the
people who work there
load cutters are they also have enabled
to these changes actually they are the
best people to change because you know
there and this gradually then they go
through in government it really don't
enjoy it
and to see more people see my way of
submitting and somebody write something
the copy that ends writer begin and say
it submitted for further information etc
there is actually no element of
enthusiasm or you know happiness the way
they function first of all the ambience
is in the very back right here and when
they have to do this
you know routine work over and over
again so that's why even in 2000 I
introduced the first paperless opposite
I'm not against urban cooperation we
found that everybody had more time with
a hat in fact we could do more work in
less time and I started evolving the
concept of 10 to 5:45 beyond the dish
not work because you know everybody's
like the mobile phone we need to go home
and recharge and come back from in fresh
from the next day so this concept is
there in the West with the night go
office and you also take weekends off
yeah that's right and here our people
working from day to night and then they
go home and you know especially women
and they have to take the bus or a cab
go home take care than have the scoop
for them they generally tend to them
when they have the time to enjoy a few
moments of say a piece yes
so wherever I have gone I felt that my
staff is most important right from the
Pew to person underneath me all of them
should have a nice time and they should
enjoy the work so that's how I
introduced the table as offices so the
advantage is that you don't need to be
in office to clear facts while traveling
so for example I clear my friends by
traveling from welcome to office one
hour traffic I'll clear on my face so
there's nothing to be clear for the day
evening again the same process thanks to
the internet we can actually absolutely
today technology enables and even had an
assistant the Junius generation we can
get home of three events nothing will
remain earlier the problem was it
suddenly you need to take a decision on
a Saturday the fight is actually kept
locked by the custodian of I who is the
junior system your she will keep log and
keep me with him or her in the home and
they would have gone someplace for a
festival or something and then we are
send a policeman to their home to get
the key
open it and today that was it if I don't
I want a water fight I can pull it out
electronically right and take a decision
so and you had electronic trails and
nobody can say I did not type this so
accountability is much higher than the
lake electron system it's not about
paper as much as about speed because you
know for a file to move from this table
to somebody's sorrow or happiness is in
that file right I have no business to
Henley be late so my job as a common
servants to ensure that he gets dressed
up for what who is asked as ASAP okay
but what generally happens is for the
men fighting from this table to this
table takes time from this table to next
table and then in circulation except off
so whereas you know in people's office
we used take 35 to 40 days for
reproduction or human decision let's say
somebody in my manager and calculus rule
she says you know I won't make this then
that decision to say yes to her or no to
that will take 104 degrees oh when we
did the vigorous office we brought it
under three hours
hi good so you can imagine the
productivity yeah that's absolutely
amazing yeah Jen from Cline joy and when
you give a whole class and hand means I
give an ambience better than the present
that's what I try to achieve and and and
they get the benefits of all the
benefits that the private sector gets
they get tea coffee free they get
whatever the private sector office
offers because I think that we need to
learn from the private sector so if they
are doing something good by now
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