Welcome everybody to my program.
Today I am in Berlin. Berlin is a cosmopolitan city. There is a lot of people here from many many countries.
Today, we'll talk to a superstar.
She is a superstar not only because she has 700k Facebook followers.
Not because she won the German program Deutschland sucht den Superstar.
She is a superstar because when she came from Poland, she started from nothing and managed to achieve something,
what in this country, has not happened before.
Germany changed the rules for her. It does not happen.
Ladies and Gentlemen, today we will interview Aneta Sablik
and today we will discuss the two cultures - Polish and German.
Stay with us, because the interview will be very interesting.
Tell me, please: what is it like to make a career in another country and in a foreign language?
I can say this much: as I took part in the Deutschland sucht den Superstar, I knew only three words.
I could not even introduce myself properly.
Komm bitte jetzt…
No... Ich bin Aneta, this is what I really said and then only in English.
My first steps in the industry were practically with no knowledge of the language. It was really hard.
But you managed.
And because I did not understand anything that was going on behind the scenes and on stage.
Probably because I understood nothing, I won the program.
This means that the language is not the most important thing in achieving success
but there are other factors and features that are more important.
I think now I can say that this is very important, if you want to go forward
and continue to grow, you must be able to communicate with people. It is important.
Germany do appreciate it, if you manage to learn the language and communicate with them.
That is respect.
It is important.
And what happens if you use the wrong definite? It is my problem.
It's my problem too.
This is a problem for all foreigners.
I always say: if not for der, die, das, I also would be German.
I have no idea, I know that the Germans make mistakes too.
It is important to understand the context, to communicate.
I was very happy when I understood people.
As an example in the DSDS, I did not understand what Dieter Bohlen was saying to me.
I did not know whether I went through to the next round or not.
Only after the people applauded, I knew I did. I just heard that people were clapping – that is how I knew I went through.
Now, you are where you are. How did you manage to achieve this?
You come from Poland. What Polish qualities helped you get to where you are in life?
I think that I learned a lot from my parents and family.
I had this foundation. You must believe and want. It helped me to go further.
So, faith and motivation, right?
My mother always wanted me to study and become a teacher.
I said, "Mum, it's not my route, I do not want to do that".
Of course, we have argued several times because of that.
Well, it happens between daughter and mother.
Exactly, after that I bought a one-way ticket and I knew that I had no other choice.
It was like that.
- It is also typically Polish. Such a Polish attribute: we are not afraid that something bad might happen.
We buy a one-way ticket and hit the road.
You would not even believe how scared I was.
To this day I'm afraid, but that's normal, you don't know what will happen in the future, what would I do if I fail.
But if you do not take risks, you will not succeed and you will never know if it was worth it.
So, you're a so called bridge between two cultures.
You speak German, you are working with the Germans, living in Hamburg, previously lived in Munich.
How many years?
5 and a half years.
Wow. You are the bridge. What are the differences between Germans and Poles?
There's a lot of things. I will always be a Pole.
I do not like cooking.
Christmas is the best example of the most beautiful thing that can happen.
There are of course things that Germany are doing better. You can not look for differences in every detail.
The actual difference is due to culture - Polish culture and German culture..
I'm somewhere in the middle and I can use what is best of the Polish culture
and what is the most valuable of the German culture, you know?
And this is what I am going to introduce in my home and I will teach my children in the future.
It means that you know how you to assimilate.
There are a lot of immigrants who, for example, go to England or Ireland, but they stay "Polish".
They speak Polish, they only have contact with other Poles and do not develop beyond their Polishness.
I am and I'm going to stay Polish. It means a lot to me but obviously I have great respect for the Germans.
I do not want to be this so called Pole that will show everybody what she's made of.
I have to accept everything; I accept the rules that apply here.
Talking about the rules: Ordnung muss sein is the most popular characteristic when it comes to rules in Germany.
Is it true?
It is indeed true, there are some things that we can learn from the Germans,
such as the order mentioned.
Of course, this is my opinion.
Mine too.
It's indeed my opinion.
See, they managed, they form a nation, there is order here,
let's look at their streets, the whole system.
That's right, the system is perfect.
That we can also learn from them. I think so.
And what can Germans learn from the Polish culture?
They could be more hospitable.
They are welcoming, there are different people, we are more open-minded, warm...
More romantic?
Yeah, romantic.
Christmas is the best example of Polish culture.
I have met on my way, many open Germans.
They were kind, helpful, but we Poles, we have such energy.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I know, I studied for one year in Germany,
it was a culture shock for me
when I started studying here.
I thought that there are so many things that I can learn from the Germans,
but I would not like to become a German, it does not interest me.
But as you mentioned earlier, you can pick something from every culture
and turn it into interculturalism.
This is what interests me.
Every culture has something specific.
I lived for 21 years in Poland.
It's too much to change into German. I took too many basics with me.
There are other situations,
a lot of people from other cultures,
like two million Turks, they grow up here and still stay Turkish.
They respect the Turkish culture, they are very family orientated.
I must add here that you can meet with less pleasant situations on their part.
However, the same thing could happen to us from the Poles or Germans.
I think Germans have their own opinions about Poles:
what they are like, how they live, what they think.
They form the image of the typical Pole
and the Poles do the same with the Germans.
I have many Germans friends.
They come to Poland and say, "Is that really Poland?".
They have more Porsche's or Audi's.
They probably have no idea
how much has changed in Poland for the past 10-20 years.
Lots of Germans told me that they were in Poland, visited Warsaw, Krakow or my city - Bielsko-Biala.
My grandfather mentioned to me that there was nothing here, only the fields.
But Poland is not Africa, we have developed a lot.
It's good that they may change their minds about us Poles.
What is happening in Poland, is one thing.
They have their negative opinion about us
because the Poles are doing uncool things in Germany. I think so.
And as I already mentioned:
people come from different backgrounds and no matter where we come from,
we have to be open-minded.
You need to proudly represent your culture, to take care of the good name
because you have an important role in this market.
Are you not the most famous Polish woman in the music market?
You are the representative of Polish culture.
I am convinced that there are a lot of people who know you, but do not know President Duda.
It is very possible here in Germany.
I did not think of it that way -
that if you are a well-known Polish woman, you have to behave yourself.
I am Polish, but I have class,
I can behave and present well, it is important, whether you're famous or not.
If you are doing unacceptable things, the newspapers generally write about what the Poles are like.
Yes and then you are not Aneta, I am not Mateusz but we are Poles.
Yes and if that opinion comes to me:
"Polish girl won DSDS and see what Poles are like".
In conclusion, regardless of whether you are a pope, a singer or a waitress.
It's very interesting what you say. How do you make a career here in Germany?
What is important for the Germans?
If you are a foreigner, you must show
that you are as good as Germans or even better.
Just hard work.
To be a celebrity, it can happen easily.
If you know how to move around.
I can do some things, I want to achieve something and I will be getting better
because I'm learning a lot, then you can convince the Germans.
Is that how they judge it?
I'm never 100% satisfied with myself,
learning and development is very important.
Every day you have to think
that you are able to accomplish even more.
Work every day, so let's say next week, I will be much better on stage.
Do you know what I mean?
If you reach a level, you have to strive to be even better.
How do Polish people perceive you in the country?
You were not known in Poland, you come to Germany
and become very successful.
You came back and everyone was delighted.
"That's our girl from Bielsko-Biala."
How were you received later?
Immediately after winning the DSDS, I came to Poland, to Warsaw.
They welcomed me very warmly, spoke well of me.
Opinions and comments were positive.
I was very attracted.
It's a past.
All the time you have to show something new to surprise...
The popularity and success does not last forever.
I also felt that being popular does not make me completely happy.
Every time I want to convince myself that I'm good.
It's hard work.
You have high expectations of yourself
and your work ethic is high.
For this reason, it is hard for you to convince yourself
that you have already achieved a lot.
It can be like that. But as I said, I want to continue working.
Yesterday I went to a great musical, I was impressed with the show and I know
that I would not be able to perform as they did.
You have to work hard, train.
Are you planning to tie your future with music?
Every day I think about music and what I want to do in the future.
You have to realise this yourself.
It is like a cinema in your head.
Then you need to sort it out yourself and achieve it.
As no one will help you with that.
If you do not want it yourself, then nobody else will do it for you.
Maybe they want to, but cannot do anything.
You have to do it yourself.
What are the three most important qualities that helped you achieve this success?
The two mentioned I earlier: faith, motivation...
No matter what happens, you have to think positive,
everything depends on our mind.
If we know that we can do something, then we can do
it even though someone will still say that we will not succeed.
You must have a positive attitude and then all the plans will certainly go through.
It certainly helps, if the hate starts to appear.
There are a lot trolls in Poland. How does it look like in Germany?
They always have been and always will be.
Haters gonna hate.
Best solution for haters is to tell them:
watch RTL at 20:15, a new program.
I'm in it.
It is very easy to write comments
on Facebook or Instagram
but harder to say it to someone's face.
That's another story.
The best defence against haters is to succeed.
With a glass of martini.
If you write negatively about the programs where I appear, how bad was my dancing...
I'm happy, it means
that they are watching it and the number of my viewers are increasing.
Is the so called entertainment in Germany different to the one in Poland?
Do you see similarities when it comes to emotions?
Here the humour and feelings.
I know German comedians and the humour here in Germany is different than in Poland.
It's different. You're right.
Only since last year I begun to understand German humour on television.
I do not watch it too often.
I myself am an artist
and the most important thing is to be yourself and say what you mean.
People immediately feel that you are acting like someone else.
You have to be authentic.
That God and your heart are telling you - do it on stage.
That's my attitude and philosophy.
Cool.
And let's respect the culture, it is very important.
Therefore, we speak German
and yet we could have this interview in Polish.
We do this because very few Germans speaks Polish.
We want to show our respect for the Germans.
During a concert, not one of my audience asked:
"Why do you not sing in German?".
This is a great journey for me to sing in German.
I got my act together because I really wanted to sing for my audience in German
and show them my appreciation in this way.
There are so many things that Germans can pick up from us Poles
, if you change the image of the past,
knowing that this culture has its own history.
The food is amazing and the alcohol.
They know it very well. Bigos and vodka.
Sauerkraut, they say here.
It sounds very original.
Usually we start with eating then with alcohol, we enter into the subject
more deeply and we realise quickly that we are neighbours,
we will be related somehow.
I'll give you one example.
Recently at a gala in Hamburg, I spoke with a reporter
who said to me, 'You are a Pole?".
She mentioned about her mother, who had a Polish babysitter for 20 years.
She was a dear and did a lot for them.
A lot of Polish women work in Germany.
The Germans know that they want to work,
they are polite and cordial.
The best example.
Fantastic, it means that you with your job
and me with mine, we can bring these two cultures closer.
We will be able to change a lot on both sides.
We have a lot to offer,
so these two cultures could respect and learn from each other better..
Certainly. I believe that
in 50 years none of the Americans will say:
"You are a German or a Pole."
"You are European".
You're right.
As I work in Mexico and Brazil,
the Spanish or Portuguese people ask me where do I come from.
I say that I am from the Poland.
They say to me, "You are from the European Union. From Europe".
They do not have this border in their mind.
The same story we have with Germany.
You are from Bavaria, Cologne and Berlin.
Są to mikrokultury, ale obcokrajowiec, np. Rosjanin,
These are microcultures, but a foreigner, let's say Russian, will say: "You are a German."
I know a lot of people who come from Rome to Berlin twice a week.
It is not a long way now.
Today, you live in Europe.
I have a Polish passport but it does not matter now.
Does not matter.
It did more in the 80s.
We Poles, we're in Berlin-Mitte.
There are no parking spaces here.
I hope I did not get a ticket.
Me neither.
It's very nice here,
everything here is very similar to Warsaw, Krakow, Paris or London.
We're not Poles or Germans,
but citizens of the world.
You travel a lot, so you also probably notice
that no matter where we are, everything is similar,
the same hotels, coffee, croissant, the streets look alike.
And döner, which does not come from Turkey,
despite the fact that we buy it from a Turk in Berlin.
My boyfriend says that the best döner is in Berlin.
Thank you very much, I wish you a lot of success in your future,
either here or anywhere else.
Help us to understand more these two cultures, so that we can change this image.
Thank you.
I hope you liked the interview and learned a lot.
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