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JERRY: Hello everyone. Thanks for joining me today. I
appreciate you watching the broadcast. We're going to
continue our study today on the Life of Faith, and I don't want
you to miss it, so sit down, relax, and just get ready to
enjoy the Word of God. The Bible says, "The just shall live by
faith." That's not an option. That's a command by Almighty
God. "The just shall live by faith." We're going to be
talking about exactly how you do that. Also, today I have a
special guest with me, Carla Porter from Nairobi, Kenya, and
we're going to be talking about what it's like to live by faith
living in Kenya particularly being an American. She's been
there for many, many years. We've supported her ministry for
a long, long time, and I'm very happy to have her on the
broadcast today. But before we get to that portion of the
program, I want you to watch a very special announcement about
some products that we have available for you talking about
the Life of Faith. Here's our announcer. Watch
closely, and then I'll be back in just a few moments.
ANNOUNCER: Every day in your life is precious.
The choices you make, whether together or
alone, hold the keys to your future. How do we as
believers live life the right way as God has intended us to
live it? Introducing the Life of Faith package, a brand new
curriculum by Dr. Jerry Savelle. You will learn how to release
your faith and how to see beyond your present circumstances to
look at your life through the eye of faith. In this study, you
will discover that your faith has the ability to grow to a
level that will not only sustain you, but also can sustain
others. The Life of Faith package included the Life of
Faith book, Life of Faith study guide, and eight sessions on DVD
and CD. Living by faith is not a suggestion. It is a Biblical
command. The Bible teaches us that it is impossible to please
God without faith, so why wouldn't you want to live by
faith? Whether in a study group or by yourself, the Life of
Faith package will show you how to live by faith, how to
overcome the world by faith, and how to be the winner that God
called you to be. If you would like to receive your own Life of
Faith package, which includes the Life of Faith
book, study guide, and eight sessions on DVD and
CD, call and request or go to JerrySavelle.org. Discover the
life God wants you to live, the life of faith.
JERRY: Welcome back, and thanks once again
for joining me today. I really appreciate you giving me
this time to impart the Word of God into your life, and I
believe, praise God, we're going to learn some great things
that'll help you be the overcomer that God has called
you to be. I mentioned at the beginning of the broadcast that
my special guest today is Carla Porter from Nairobi, Kenya.
Carla, it is so good to have you on the program. CARLA: Thank
you, Brother Jerry. JERRY: We have known each other for many,
many years. You came to work here in 1981. CARLA: Yes. JERRY:
You were a school teacher in Oklahoma, correct? CARLA: Yes.
JERRY: How did you find out about Jerry Savelle Ministries?
CARLA: Brother Jerry, it's a long story, but I'd come to
visit my sister here who was attending the Baptist
Theological Seminary. JERRY: Okay. CARLA: We were having
lunch, and a waiter walked up to us and said, "I feel impressed
to tell you that Jerry Savelle Ministries is close to here and
he has a Wednesday night service." I had heard about you
on Kenneth Copeland tapes, so we looked up your location, I went
to that Wednesday night service, and at the end of it your
secretary introduced herself to me and said, "Welcome, and what
do you do? Where are you from?". I told her I was a school
teacher. She said, "We're looking for school teachers for
our Christian school." To make a long story short, that was in
March and by July I was on your staff. JERRY: You've been here a
long, long time. CARLA: A long time, Brother Jerry. JERRY:
Well, let me tell the people about how you and your husband,
Wade, who is a cousin of mine and he came to the Lord back in
the early what? Late 70's actually. CARLA: Late 70's.
JERRY: He had been an outlaw, biker, and all that kind of
stuff, and came to the Lord, and came here and came to work for
the ministry. He was a commercial artist. Put him to
work in the art department. Then you and he married some time
later, and you traveled all over the country with me in our
crusades. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: But in the early 80's I was going to
build a medical facility in Kenya. CARLA: Mm-hmm
(affirmative). JERRY: I'd been going to Kenya since 1978.
CARLA: Yes. JERRY: I needed someone to oversee that project,
so I came to you and Wade and I said, "I need for you to go to
Kenya and oversee this project. You'll probably only be there
for about six months, and then you can come home." How long
have you been in Kenya now? CARLA: 30 years. JERRY: 30.
That's the longest six months you ever spent, right? But you
fell in love with the nation of Kenya. CARLA: We did. JERRY: You
fell in love with the people. CARLA: We did. JERRY: You began
to oversee all the churches that we'd established and then
eventually established the church in Nairobi- CARLA: Yes.
JERRY: That you pastor today. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: Wade went
home to be with the Lord back in 2007. Is that correct? CARLA:
'12. JERRY: 2012. CARLA: 2012. JERRY: You've continued to
pastor the church. Tell us a little bit about the church
there in Nairobi. CARLA: We have a wonderful church in Nairobi,
Victory Faith Church, filled with loving, compassionate
people that are a vital part of the call that really, Brother
Jerry, you answered decades ago. Wade and I another time entered
that call. JERRY: Right. CARLA: And it continues until this day
with a vital children's church program, youth program, and many
outreaches. JERRY: Yeah. Praise God. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: What's
the attendance there at the church in Nairobi now? CARLA:
Well, Brother Jerry, it varies. If everybody was there, it would
be at least 500, but they're never all there at the same
time. JERRY: Yeah, okay. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: Well, it's always
been a joy coming there and preaching to the family in
Kenya. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: They're beautiful people. CARLA:
Yes, they are. JERRY: I remember in my first journal writing home
to Carolyn. The first time I put my feet on Kenya's soil I said,
"Carolyn, I have fallen in love with the people in Kenya." When
I got home she said, "Jerry, you fall in love with the people in
every nation you go to." I said, "But this is different. They're
very special people." CARLA: Very. JERRY: Carla, we've been
talking about on our broadcast for several weeks now about the
Life of Faith. Obviously, you began learning how to live that
life when you first came to work here. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: You've
taught it to a lot of people over the years. What's it like
living by faith in a nation outside of America? CARLA: Well,
Brother- JERRY: And is it a must? CARLA: Yes. Well, it is a
must. Brother Jerry, let me begin by saying everyone is
called to the nations. JERRY: Yeah. CARLA: The call to the
nations is for every believer- JERRY: That's right. CARLA: Of
the body of Christ. In Acts 1:8, it says, "The Holy Spirit shall
come upon you and you'll be empowered in your Jerusalem,
Judea, Samaria, and to the uttermost parts of the earth."
JERRY: Yeah. It's empowered to witness. CARLA: Empowered to
witness. JERRY: Not to set back and just enjoy your
Christianity. CARLA: Exactly. JERRY: There's an assignment on
that. CARLA: There is an assignment on it, and out of
that assignment there will be those who go and live in other
nations. JERRY: Yeah. CARLA: Then there are those who send
the ones who go. JERRY: That's right. CARLA: In God's economy
and in his perspective of our faith, the ones who send and the
ones who go receive the same rewards. JERRY: That's right.
That's right. CARLA: Because we can't go unless we are sent.
It's not only God who sends us, but it's people of faith who
send us as well. JERRY: Right. That's why I've been able for 48
years now to travel from one end of this planet to the other,
because of my faithful partners. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: They have
supported us. They've undergirded us. They've been
there and helped send us, you know, to impact nations all over
the world. CARLA: Amen. JERRY: Without those faithful partners,
it'd be very difficult if not impossible to accomplish. CARLA:
Actually, Brother Jerry, the majority don't go physically and
live in another nation, but they are an essential, vital part of
fulfilling the call that God gave Abraham when he said, "I'm
going to make of you a great nation." JERRY: That's right.
CARLA: What is that nation? It means the nation of believers.
JERRY: Mm-hmm (affirmative). CARLA: He's the father of faith,
of those who trust God in their generation to fulfill the
promise, "I will bless you and make you a blessings, and in you
all the families of the earth shall be blessed." JERRY: That's
right. CARLA: The ones who send, the ones who go have an
absolutely vital part- JERRY: That's right. CARLA: Of
fulfilling that promise. JERRY: you know, the scripture
I read from Hebrews 10:38, "The just shall live by
faith." CARLA: Yes. JERRY: Another translation says, "The
just shall have their lives sustained by their faith."
CARLA: Yes. JERRY: That word sustained means provided for and
supplied for. So, this is God's way of fulfilling his promise to
us that "I will supply all your need according to my riches and
glory through Christ Jesus." CARLA: Yes. JERRY: It's through
our faith in him. It's our faith in his love. It's our faith in
his assurance that he will back us. It's our faith in his
ability to do it. No matter what nation you live in, if you're a
believer, then God requires you to live by faith, simply
trusting him. CARLA: Yes. JERRY: You've learned to do that.
CARLA: Brother Jerry, the weapons that are formed against
a believer called to go into the nations, I don't even know how
to number them because the enemy is absolutely determined. Your
destiny may be in another nation, but he is determined you
will not fulfill your destiny. So, he forms all kinds of
weapons to discourage you, to bring you into hopelessness and
despair, to make you lonely, to make you feel like no one really
cares that you're there. JERRY: Oh, I can remember ... of course
you weren't going there or weren't there at that time, but
in 1978 the very first time, and I'm preaching all over Kenya,
and I'd get back from a meeting. Now, the first place I was in
was Nakuru. CARLA: Oh yes. JERRY: We had thousands of
people in an open field. It was such a joy to see their
response. People surrendering their lives to the Lord, but I'd
get back to that little hut, and I do mean a hut, that I was
staying in and I would feel like the loneliness man in the world.
I'd think "What am I doing here? I got family across the big pond
that loves me, that misses me." Sometimes I had to use my faith
to go to sleep at night. I'd wake up the next morning, get
back in that bed, and I'd think, "This
is what I'm here for." But it took faith to be there. It took
faith to stay there. It took faith to trust God to accomplish
everything that he had assigned us to do. CARLA: Well,
especially after my husband died. In the first couple of
year after his death, Brother Jerry, there were times on
Sunday afternoons, when the week was done, the church service was
over, and I'm all by myself, I've had lunch, I would just
hold myself and say, "Lord, you have to help me now." Because I
would be overwhelmed with a sense of loneliness and
isolation, far from people who do love me and care for me. So
it has taken faith for me to stay. This is my 30th year. I'm
not saying the call has not been fulfilled with joy, but there
have been plenty of challenges just to remain in the call, then
you have the challenges of believing for the supply of the
spirit to do the impossible. You're believing that people's
lives will be transformed. You can't transform them. It's God
who's the God of the impossible, but it takes faith to look into
the face of great need and say, "Lord, with you all things are
possible, and I'm trusting you to impact this person's life,
this family's life, or this community's life." JERRY: You
know what I've discovered over the years is, when you see the
impact that the Word of God has on these people and the changes
... a lot of people don't realize that when you go into
another nation, you're facing all kind of gods. CARLA: Yes.
JERRY: That they have served. CARLA: Yes, darkness. JERRY: A
lot of times they just add Jesus to the list. CARLA: Yes. JERRY:
You know, but to see people that literally change and it is an
obvious work of the Holy Spirit, that to me is the joy and the
"it's worth it all". CARLA: That's what keeps you going.
JERRY: Yeah, it's what keeps you going. CARLA: That's what keeps
you going. Brother Jerry, one of the works I do is working with
orphaned and vulnerable children. JERRY: Yeah, I wanted
you to tell about that. CARLA: We have an orphanage, Our Home
orphanage and child care center. Just not long before I came, it
was in the month of October, we were called by a government
official. "We have a little girl who is an orphan and she was
given to her aunt, but the husband has driven his wife away
and he remains alone with this child. Will you take her?" So I
said, "Yes, if you will give her to me, I will raise her as a
daughter." So I'll never forget the day they brought little
Esther to me. She was frozen with fear, because of course the
police waited till the uncle left. They snatched her, brought
her to me, and she was just stiff with fear, with her head
down. I leaned over, and as I do all of them I take in, I
embraced her and I said, "You're safe now. I'm going to take care
of you. All of us are going to take care of you. We love you,
and God loves you." She never had an expression, her head was
down, just frozen with fear. But, another one of our children
took her as his sister just about three years older, bathed
her that night, helped her get her supper, chose clothes for
her to put on, and slept with her. I would just observe her in
the following days. She was very reserved, but two weeks after I
got her, after church a bunch of the kids in our home come
running for hugs and kisses, and I was astonished Esther was
leading the pack. She threw herself against me, wrapped her
arms around me, and I was overcome with joy. I just bent
down and said, "Oh, Esther I love you, I love you, I love
you." I heard that little voice say, "I love you too mom."
Brother Jerry, that transformation, in just two
weeks through the love of God and the provision that partners
helped me meet the needs of the children had transformed her.
I've just watched her grow, in joy, in peace, and in
confidence. Brother Jerry, that's what I live for. JERRY:
Well, yeah, and at that moment, that makes you feel like you
wouldn't want to be at any other place on the planet. CARLA:
Anywhere else. That's right. JERRY: Right. Praise God. Well,
we support you and I encourage others that are watching our
broadcast to support you as well. We're going to put up your
US address, and also your email address so people that want to
communicate. And, I encourage our partners to get involved. Of
course, we support you on a monthly basis, get involved in
the projects you're doing. You're building a new orphanage.
CARLA: A school. JERRY: Tell us a little bit about that. A
school? CARLA: A school. Its Heritage Leadership Academy. We
have a number of challenges with education in Kenya. My husband
and I felt for years we needed our own school with a strong
curriculum, strong Bible teaching because of course the
spiritual is first, and it overrides everything else.
JERRY: Right. CARLA: Your character. And then number
three, age appropriate leadership principles being
taught to the children. And number four is age appropriate
financial principles so that the children grow up with an
understanding of handling finances for the kingdom of
God's sake. We are in phase one, which is a $375,000 phase. I
only remain with $60,000 to raise for the first phase.
JERRY: Isn't that great? CARLA: Yes. JERRY: God is supplying.
CARLA: I'm so grateful. JERRY: God honors faith all over the
world. CARLA: Everywhere, even in what would be considered the
uttermost parts. JERRY: Yes. Praise God. So listen, there's
no reason why you can't choose to make the life of faith the
life that you live. The Bible, once again says, "The just shall
live by faith. They shall have their lives sustained by their
faith." I can't pass this up. In Hebrews 10:38 the New Living
translation once again, "My righteous ones live by faith,
but I will take no pleasure in those who turn back."
Now, you know the Bible says it's impossible
to please him without faith. A loving God,
you know that obviously loves us. He proved
His love by sending His own son to redeem us, but it is possible
to displease Him. Now, you know, children displease their parents
from time to time, but you never stop loving them. CARLA: No.
JERRY: God says, "It's not going to please me if you don't live
by faith, if you don't trust me. I'll never stop loving you. You
could never do anything that would cause me to stop loving
you, but if you want to please me, you trust me." CARLA:
Brother Jerry, there will be a multitude of opportunities in
the Life of Faith, to draw back because it may feel hard, it may
look impossible, one may think, "This is going to take so much
from me, to do this. This is going to require so much to do
this." But, what is our overriding motive in serving
God? It's to please Him. We want Him to be pleased with our lives
and with our obedience. JERRY: It's said many times, John 8:29,
Jesus said, "I'll always do those things to please Him."
CARLA: Please the Father. JERRY: That's going to be my testimony.
CARLA: Mine, too, Brother Jerry. JERRY: When He comes or I go,
whichever comes first, I want Him to say, "Well done thou good
and faithful servant." Listen, thank you so much for watching.
There's some things that I want you to take a look at. Our
announcer has some special information to share with you,
and then we'll be back in just a few moments so
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ANNOUNCER: Everyday in your life is precious.
The choices you make, whether together or alone,
hold the keys to your future. How do we as
believers live life the right way, as God has intended us to
live it? Introducing the Life of Faith package, brand new
curriculum by Dr. Jerry Savelle. You will learn how to release
your faith and how to see beyond your present circumstances to
look at your life through the eye of faith. In this study, you
will discover that your faith has the ability to grow to a
level that will not only sustain you, also can sustain others.
The Life of Faith package includes the Life of Faith book,
Life of Faith study guide, and eight sessions on DVD and CD.
Living by faith is not a suggestion, it is a Biblical
command. The Bible teaches us that it is impossible to please
God without faith. Why wouldn't you want to live by faith?
Whether in a study group or by yourself, the Life of Faith
package will show you how to live by faith, how to overcome
the world by faith, and how to be the winner that God called
you. If you would like to receive your own Life of Faith
package, which includes the Life of Faith book,
study guide, and eight sessions on DVD and CD,
call and request or go to jerrysavelle.org. Discover the
life God wants you to live, the Life of Faith.
JERRY: I really want to encourage you to order
the resource entitled the Life of Faith. In this curriculum
there is the book on the Life of Faith, also a study guide that
you can follow along with as you're reading the book, answer
the questions. This way you know that it becomes a revelation to
you. It's not just reading, but you have to study it and you'll
be able to answer the questions and you'll get it down into your
spirit. Also with it are eight CDs and four DVDs. Now listen,
I've written the book, I've provided you a study guide, I've
preached where you can listen to it, I've preached it where you
can watch it. I'm doing my part to get the Word of God on the
inside of you, and what I want you to do, is do your part and
order the resource. You know, a lot of churches use this
curriculum for their Sunday school classes, for their Bible
schools, and I believe that it is certainly a great investment
on your part. I want to encourage you to order the Life
of Faith curriculum right away. Do it right now while it's fresh
on your mind, don't wait a few days, you may forget it. Do it
right now and we'll get it to you just as soon as possible. I
also want to remind you to take a look at our new website. You
are going to enjoy a lot of the new features that it contains.
Number one, you can watch our TV broadcast on the website. You
can read our monthly contact letter, and then also you can
download our Adventures in Faith magazine. A lot of great, new
material that's available. It's one of the ways that we can
minister you on an ongoing basis, and it's one of the ways
that we can help you get the Word deep down on the inside of
you. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
Take advantage of all these great ways, apps and websites
that we have made available so that we know that you are
receiving the Word of God and that you are learning how to
apply it in your life. You know, the Bible says, "Be ye doers of
the Word and not hearers only." If you learn to live by faith
the way the Bible teaches it, then you're going to have this
testimony, you're going to be a world overcomer. Satan is not
going to defeat you any longer. You are going to be the victor
and not the victim. Thanks again for watching today. We've got
two more weeks on this subject, the Life of Faith, so be sure
and make your plans to join with us. I'll see you again next week
and remember until then, your faith will overcome the world.
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ANNOUNCER: Next week. JERRY: When the Word of God is final
authority in your life, then you will no longer be moved by your
circumstances, no longer moved by negative circumstances.
You see, the Life of Faith requires that you not be moved
by what you see, you not be moved by what you hear, and you
not be moved by what you feel. I remember Kenneth Copeland saying
that in that very first service I ever heard him preach, he
said, "I'm not moved by what I hear. I'm not moved by what I
see. I'm not moved by what I feel." I thought immediately,
"Well boy, I am." By the time he got through teaching the Word of
God, I began to realize what he was talking about. Then I
learned to get that way in my own life, and praise God, I am
pleased to say today that I am not moved by what I hear. I am
not moved by what I feel. I am not moved by what I see.
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