Alright Miss Carol, I can't wait to hear this, okay?
Planting mis-information, okay?
Where you wanna start with that?
I can't wait.
- Well, I can be pretty vicious sometimes.
I was checking out something recently
and the girl behind the counter
tried to sell me soil amendments.
- (Chris) Uh-oh. - with my plants,
they were some old Hollywood junipers,
and I was like, "Don't believe in them!"
I believe in improving soil,
but from the top down like mother nature does.
If you dig a hole,
they want you to dig a hole
and mix the soil amendments in the hole
and then plant in there,
and actually what you're doing
is creating a bucket of vastly different textured soil,
which is gonna fill up with water in wet times,
because the tight soil acts like a bucket,
and it's gonna dry out faster during dry times.
Plus, the roots don't really want to leave
that little pampered area.
They're like, "Ooh, I don't wanna go over there."
- (Chris) "This is nice."
- "I'll stay right here,"
which means they blow over easy,
and again, can be a challenge to keep it watered.
So, I just break up the native soil
as little as possible to get it in there.
And also if I do need to improve my soil, and my house,
you know I just built a house in 2011,
a lot of bulldozer work.
So, I really don't have a lot of good, native soil.
So, I'm not saying never till in soil amendments,
but if you do do the whole area
so that it can continue,
because tree roots especially
they want to go out sideways really far,
so the more you can help them do that that's good.
They like for you to add hormones and root stimulators.
No scientific research has shown
that that gives any benefit.
It's just another product
that they're trying to sell you over the counter.
- (Chris) Interesting.
- Don't put any fertilizer in that hole.
- (Chris) I heard that one too, okay.
- Don't fertilize that plant for the first year.
Woody plants, now annuals and vegetables sure you do,
that's a different thing,
and till in all the stuff you want to there
for that quick response.
But, for trees and shrubs
I don't recommend fertilizer for the first year,
because you have a challenged plant anyway.
It's going through some shock.
It's having to get real integrated
into that new setting,
and fertilizers are salty
and they draw water from the roots.
So, you really don't want to be
pushing the envelope with that
and kind of giving them a little bit more challenge.
People wanna do that when a plant is sick, too.
They like to throw some fertilizer.
- (Chris) Don't fertilize them.
- Tried fertilizing it and it hadn't responded.
Well, you don't want a whole bunch of rich food
when you're sick either.
(Chris laughs)
Don't do that to the plant.
Just nurse it during drought-y times.
Try not to stress it.
See if it can recover from whatever is going on.
- Okay, let me ask you this though.
Let me back you up for a second.
So, when do you recommend tilling, tilling?
- Yes, if I'm gonna do a vegetable garden maybe.
Now, you can go the lasagna route
and just layer things on top,
but if I really want to improve the soil for the annuals
and I really need to plant for seasonal display.
I'm gonna change that garden out twice a year
from cool to warm season.
I want that quick response.
I don't have all day to wait for that plant,
so I'm probably gonna till in
and get some good amendments and some quick fertilizer boost
and get that quick turnover for me there.
- Good, okay, good, okay.
- And also like in my soil,
I'm down to the B horizon.
So, I'm gonna do the whole area.
I don't have any soil structure left
because of all the bulldozer work.
So, I'm not preserving anything by not tilling,
because when we don't till
we're trying to preserve soil structure
that was originally there,
and right now I don't have any.
- (Chris) Good stuff, okay.
- I do strip tilling.
Just till one little strip exactly where I put the seeds.
- Yeah, well a vegetable garden I think that's cool.
That's fine.
Maybe not on my permanent vegetables, I mean perennial.
I'm gonna do some perennial vegetables
around my new garden plot,
and I'm probably not gonna till that
every year by any means.
Anyway, another is container plants
are always better than being big.
Of course, it turns out that container plants
have their own set of problems,
which is root girdling which I was not a big believer in.
Now I'm convinced.
And now with these days of looking online
and finding lots of good images,
you can find the coolest pictures
of what circling roots can do.
They actually wrap around a lot of times
especially when they're planted too deep,
and they will girdle that trunk so severely
that it's just like you put
a piece of steel twine or a wire around it.
It also makes them snap at that point, too.
So you got to be sure
if you are planting container plants
to get those roots teased out
or saw through them with a serrated saw,
or B & B material,
which if it's been properly grown is actually not,
All those roots are going to be going out in the soil
like they're supposed to.
- Let's go back again.
So, B & B stands for?
- Ball and burlap.
You dig up a root ball.
You wrap it in burlap.
Another myth was
you could leave it on there because it'll rot.
- I was just about to ask you that.
So what about that one?
- You do not.
You take it off.
If it rotted that fast would you use it?
(Chris laughs)
- Right.
- And also they don't even use real burlap these days.
They have some kind of synthetic product
that looks like burlap.
You want those roots to get as in touch with that soil
as fast as they can.
Take off the cage, take off the burlap, take off the wire.
Do whatever you can
to actually get naked roots in touch with the soil
where it's gonna be growing,
and water in well, water in deeply.
- Okay, water in well, water in deeply.
- Yes, even if you have rain, if you have irrigation,
that first soaking you need to really
get that root ball settled in and soaked.
- Okay.
- We used to hear B & B material
could only be planted in the winter when it's dormant.
But truth is if it's been well handled,
root pruned, wrapped in a good ball of burlap,
there's a lot of good intact roots
in that plant right there.
You can certainly plant them year round
as long as you're willing to water,
which is the same thing
you had to do with container plants anyway.
So, that is another myth.
They also used to tell you
be sure you don't let that root ball come apart.
Keep that soil.
Now they discovered if you knock all that soil off
and plant it and get it into contact
with the soil where it's gonna be growing,
it'll actually grow a lot faster
than the one that is kept in the original root ball.
So, somebody finally does research.
If we got time for more,
the idea that raw wood chips
are always a bad idea for mulching established plants.
It is a bad idea if you're tilling it in,
and little baby plants it's gonna rob the nitrogen,
and it could certainly deprive them
of the nutrition they need for growth.
But, if you're just using raw wood chips
to put on the top of the ground
around well established plants,
it does not steal the nitrogen.
- Does not, does not.
- Does not.
It's a perfectly good source,
and a good way to recycle things
and help them from hauling those kinds of things
off to the landfill.
- Okay.
- Talk about fertilizer,
people have misconceptions about fertilizer
being good for plants and what types of fertilizer.
Number one, most of our soils have plenty of P and K,
so usually you don't have to add a lot of that.
You really don't have to fertilize a woody plant at all.
You really don't.
We've got plenty of nutrition in the soil.
The plants out in the woods have done fine
without anybody helping them out.
We like to.
We like to get rich growth and push them along a little bit.
People assume manure is always a good idea.
It's a good organic source.
It breaks down slow.
Some plants don't like manure.
We discovered that the hard way
because we thought, well, grew up on a dairy farm
and when we switched over to being a blueberry orchard
we put manure on everything.
Blueberries don't like manure.
It's too alkaline.
And most of our ornamentals like an acid soil,
hollies, camellias, azaleas.
- (Tom) Gardenias.
- Yes, they do not like that alkaline soil.
So, don't make that assumption manure is always a good idea.
- Does manure contain a lot of salt?
- I don't know if it's salt, it's alkaline.
You know, different.
I wouldn't think it would be a high salt thing at all.
Companion plants, you hear that business all the time.
- (Chris) You get it all the time.
- Companion plants, companion plants, compost tea.
(Chris laughs)
I read somewhere say,
"Why would you think a diluted product from compost
would be better than actual compost?"
Makes no sense, does it?
They say it cures all ills.
You can use it for curing these diseases and that disease.
True, a healthier plant
might be able to resist some disease.
I really like people to research.
There's some good books out there
the truth about home remedies that you can read,
which ones actually work, because some do,
but a lot of the myth about companion plants
was plants that repel mosquitoes.
I watch them land,
I watched a mosquito land right on that citronella leaf.
(Chris laughs)
I'm like, "Really?"
- Didn't do a thing to it, huh?
- No, but people swear by it,
because they didn't have mosquitoes that summer.
Well, there was some other reason
you didn't have mosquitoes that summer.
It had nothing to do with your citronella plant.
- You know, that's one you see on the Internet all the time,
recommended plants to repel mosquitoes.
How about that.
- Somebody said put a little mint in your house
and the mice will scamper away.
I'm like, "Really?"
So yeah, we have to be careful about these things.
If it sounds too good to be true, it's probably not--
- It probably is.
Carol, that's some good stuff.
I'd been waiting for that.
That's some really good stuff.
Thank you very much, alright.
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