So, another question that I received is from Kwee Kang and he asked me about the
choices that I made with a different career moves. And I suggested to him that
probably the one most important criteria when you think about your next career
move is whether that role and that organization gives you the most learning
opportunities. So, I find that much more than the industry that you choose to
work in, much more than the company or its brand, more than the job title or
even the salary, but it's really the leader and the team that you work with
and do they have a learning culture. So my advise is perhaps at the later
stage of that interview process, not in the first interview, where you might
already be talking about salary and scope, is to ask that hiring manager the
person whom you'll be working with what's their track record of hiring and
developing people. Ask for specific names, people that they've hired, how have they
grown, what feedback and coaching that they've received and where are they today.
And it's very easy to tell between people who are genuinely delighted to
share and throwing all kinds of names because then you can ask can I follow up
and talk to them to validate it. I also use this as one of my most important
interview questions when I'm hiring for leadership positions because I feel that
leaders who are gonna run teams and the way they lead will shape culture much
more than anything else in the organization so I ask these candidates,
give me examples of people who you've hired and worked under you that you're
most proud of today. And I've seen it's very telling, I've interviewed CEOs who
struggle to give specific names and you can easily tell whether someone's trying
to fake it because you probe multiple times in terms of how specifically that
they hire, how do they coach and grow and where are they today. And I've also
interviewed people who are delighted with this question and we're just
brimming with so many names whether it's Sarah or Ali or Michael or John, people
whom they have the given the opportunities, they've coached
and specifically they're proud of where they are today especially they have gone
on to even higher roles than the the manager. So, I admire organizations who
really give that space and take chances with young people, give them roles
challenge them to take on new responsibilities and so that would be my
advice on how do you make your next career move.
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