hey Dave Curlee with Church Training
Academy and I am here at NAB 2017 and I
am standing in the boxcast booth with
Gordon Daily. When I when I got a
share quick story
when I saw this the other day when you
came over to our booth for the stream
and you told me what this amazing little
thing does I just about lost my
faculties I could not believe what
you're getting ready to tell me about
this wonderful box as you know I'm
working in the small medium sized church
business right and my audience is
constantly asking me who do I stream
with how do I stream how do we stream
our services how do we do things like
that and and my job is provide training
and tools and equipment to do that
you're blowing me away with this tell
our audience here just exactly what this
box caster it is well this is the box
caster Pro so what this is is a 4k 60
frames per second HDR HEV C encoder all
in this little package unbelievable with
that Ruby said H HEV see there hhtv said
both HDR and HEV C right so the deeper
color depth and the better video
compression right so it just it's so in
case you don't know HEV C is h.265 we're
all using all of our mp4 files we're
doing H dot 264 we've been doing that
for a number of years this is the the
higher compression higher quality lower
bitrate encoder right that's right with
h.265 you get the advantage of the same
video quality at half the bitrate right
and for most small medium sized churches
the biggest issue for them in the
quality of the video is the uplink speed
that's what we deal with in our church
we've got a Time Warner or somebody like
that we've got like maybe on paper five
megabits up but in reality on a Sunday
morning with like 300 smartphones and
all this kind of stuff we may get to
going up this you tell me that this can
help overcome that completely
oh absolutely so it's better compression
makes a big difference but the other
thing there's a few other factors too
secondarily is you only
send one signal up to us everybody else
has a scent all the other sized pictures
that you can watch it on mobile devices
and smaller but we do one because we do
cloud transcoding on the fly so that
means you can preserve your bandwidth to
get the best picture up and most of the
time the network isn't always perfect
right so we've got what we call box cash
flow which is a better way to transmit
data because we make our own encoders
because we have our own cloud
transcoding we can have a special
technology in between that makes the
video flow more reliable - whether those
bad Network conditions so can you give
me like a real-world idea of what a like
a 1080p stream going up at I mean you
know 2 megabits h.264 equivalent what
what could would be using 2 megabits
will be using 1 I mean what give me an
idea
sure so if you're doing a really nice
1080p stream you might be five Meg's
okay right and we might recommend a
custom as well you need a little bit of
breathing room there's other things that
happen to the church while you're
streaming maybe you're looking for a 10
up connection we usually try to tell
them to double it so if you're moving to
h.265 though with that compression you
immediately only need half as much to
maintain the same level of quality so a
5 mega connection would allow me to do
two two and a half and get the same
quality and because of what you guys do
with the signal it gets there a lot
easier that's right and you can think of
it the other way to it for the same
bandwidth you can double the quality of
the picture oh cool yeah yeah that's
good okay so what I'll do I get with the
big box caster box because and as I'm
understanding it no matter what
infrastructure I have a TriCaster or a
live stream unit or some old hardware
anything like that this is going to
handle the final the final run up to the
service that's right so you work on
everything to make the live production
where you want it and then you just take
the output of all that hard work the
good camerawork the good mixing take
your program output feed from that feed
that right in the box and the rest gets
handled for you fantastic and you guys
actually have a streaming service as
well that we could use to implement on
our website correct that's right and
that's probably one of the most
important parts is because you want to
make sure you can handle any size
audience you want to make sure that your
viewers are getting the
best experience and it just always plays
and that's the problems that we've been
working very painstakingly over the
number of years to have as good an
experience as possible it doesn't matter
if you're a huge major league sporting
team or your small church with just 50
people right so one of the things that I
get asked a lot is for a hosting service
you know a lot people want to use
YouTube because it's free or they want
to use Ustream or somebody like that to
host it there's always cost it is always
a factor and the smaller the church the
lower the budget how do you guys address
that or I mean that I see services out
there that a lot of churches are using
and it's sad but I think these services
take advantage of the church because
they're not as as savvy as tech savvy
and I think they take advantage of that
with you know we understand that the
church is a budget mind right and what's
wonderful about box gas is that our
plans offer unlimited viewership
unlimited numbers of events so they just
come to our website our pricing is right
there on the website on purposes because
it's one of the biggest advantages we
have so with all that transcoding with
all that special technology to get the
video up we have these really affordable
plans starting at $19 a month and they
go up as expensive as you want to get
the level of quality that you want those
numbers of function and functionality
and features that you need for your
organization a small church things start
at 20 bucks yeah you know and the
average church pays us a little for a
hundred dollars a month because they
like to have their storage of the videos
on their website for a long period of
time they want to have a higher quality
maybe to go up to 1080p instead of 720
because what 19 you get to get 720 but
it's really easy to see on our website
all the different things you get the
other thing that churches really need a
lot of is if something goes wrong within
a call right so we offer live support
for our plans I think on the $99 and up
plans and we have a great relationship
with our clients whenever they have
questions they just call us we work we
work it out with them yeah I love this
it sounds like your your meeting meeting
the needs no matter what the spectrum is
and this box I I'm amazed at what you're
doing at I'm not running into too many
people that are encoding and streaming
up sending up h.265 so that's that's
impressive well in the biggest reason
why you're never going to see that for
the smaller organizations is because
there's no cloud transcoding services
gonna be able to take that better
compression it's a hundred times more
computationally intensive to squeeze
that down
to that level of quality for the higher
for the higher resolutions fantastic
just at first glance this seems to be
one of the best easiest ways to start I
mean with the inputs you have here
I mean HDMI right there you can
literally start with just a camera like
the camera I'm shooting on the camera
and an internet connection well you know
what it's even easier than that you
don't even have to spend money for
hardware we've got a wonderful free
iPhone streaming app that'll let you
stream pretty good quality that's a
great place to start to the antenna
reason why every organization shouldn't
be making these events available to
people that can't be there in the church
setting there's so many individuals
whether they're home sick or they're
traveling with a family or they're
fighting you know overseas you know
there's just or they're off to college
trying to figure out what they want
their lives to be like it's nothing like
going home and be able to be a part of
the church community again guys yo
you'll be hearing more from box cast but
for me at least because I'm in love with
this I'm going to try to get my crew to
distract him so I can steal one so in
Jesus name so thanks a lot you bet
thanks guys
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