MUSIC
>> SO, WHENEVER WE INTERVIEW
PEOPLE, WE ALWAYS ASK FOR PHOTOS
BECAUSE WE NEED PHOTOS TO BE
ABLE TO VISUALLY TELL THEIR
STORIES, AND A LOT OF TIMES,
PEOPLE WILL TELL US, "OH, I JUST
DON'T HAVE ANY INTERESTING
PHOTOS," OR DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
THEY HAVE.
SO, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
INTERESTING TO GET YOU GUYS
TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU
CAN LEARN FROM A PHOTO.
ED, YOU'RE A LONGTIME HISTORIAN
HERE IN COLUMBUS, AND AARON,
YOU'RE AN ARCHIVIST HERE AT THE
LIBRARY.
SO, I WANTED TO GET SOME TIPS
AND TRICKS THAT YOU GUYS USE
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PHOTOS.
SO, I HAVE A STACK OF PHOTOS
HERE OF THINGS WE'VE COLLECTED
OVER THE YEARS, AND I'M GOING TO
FLIP THEM OVER AND JUST HAVE YOU
GUYS START KIND OF WEIGHING IN
ON THE PICTURE.
SO, HERE'S THE FIRST ONE.
IT'S JUST A SCENE.
>> IT GOES BACK TO A TIME WHEN
COLUMBUS WAS A SMALL TOWN.
MOST OF THESE KIND OF OLDER
HOUSES, THIS ONE DATES FROM
ABOUT THE 1840s.
IT'S SORT OF A LITTLE OF A TOUCH
OF GREEK REVIVAL AND A LITTLE
ECLECTIC THROWN IN WITH IT.
AND THAT'S HOW YOU HELP DATE THE
PICTURE.
DATE THE PICTURE FROM THE AGE OF
THE HOUSE.
>> I'M LOOKING AT ROADS, DIRT
ROAD.
SO, I'M LOOKING AT -- SO I KNOW.
>> PEOPLE?
>> THE PEOPLE, WHAT THEY'RE
DRESSED LIKE.
EXACTLY.
EVEN THE FENCING AND THE STONES
HERE OR IN THE FENCING, AND THEN
I'M ALSO LOOKING AT ADJACENT
BUILDINGS AS WELL.
AND OF COURSE, ARCHITECTURE OF
THE BUILDING TO FIGURE OUT HOW
OLD THE BUILDING IS.
>> ANOTHER SNEAKY WAY TO DATE
THIS PICTURE IS THIS IS HIGH
STREET.
AND YOU DON'T GET A STREET CAR
LYING ON HIGH STREET UNTIL 1863.
THERE'S NO STREET CAR LINE,
WHICH HELPS YOU DATE THIS
PICTURE BACK BEFORE THAT TIME.
>> LET'S TRY ANOTHER ONE, OKAY?
THIS IS A GREAT PHOTO AND I
THINK -- YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT
IT.
>> FIRST THING I DO AS A
LIBRARIAN, I LOOK AT WHAT'S IN
THE PHOTOGRAPH AND I TRY TO
DATE.
SO, WE HAVE THE ERA OF THE
LOCOMOTIVE HERE, THE TRAIN.
YOU CAN DATE AUTOMOTIVES --
AUTOMOTIVE ENGINES BASED ON WHAT
THEY'RE USING.
ARE THEY STEAM ENGINES?
ARE THEY DIESEL?
THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
SHAPES OF CARS.
EVEN HERE YOU SEE THE TOLEDO AND
OHIO CENTRAL.
AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT HOW --
WHEN WERE THEY ACTIVE THROUGH
COLUMBUS.
AND I'M LOOKING AT SCENERY.
OF COURSE, AGAIN, CLOTHING.
I'M LOOKING AT THESE HORSE-DRAWN
VEHICLES HERE AND I'M ALSO --
OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE THIS
BUILDING IN THE BACK WHICH IS
VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE
THAT'S AT SO YOU CAN TELL WHERE
THE BUILDING IS BASED ON THE
BUILDING IN THE BACK.
>> SO, WHAT IS THAT BUILDING?
>> WELL, IT'S THE TOLEDO AND
OHIO CENTRAL RAILROAD STATION.
IT'S THE ONLY RAILROAD STATION
THAT STILL EXISTS IN TOWN.
IT'S NOW THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE
FIREFIGHTERS' UNION.
AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING EAST ON
BROAD STREET AT THE RAILROAD
BRIDGE.
AT THE TIME WHEN THEY WERE
BASICALLY PUTTING IN A NEW SET
OF STREET CAR TRACKS, AND AS
AARON WAS SAYING, ONE OF THE
WAYS YOU CAN HELP DATE THESE
THINGS IS BY THE CLOTHING THAT
THE PEOPLE ARE WEARING.
THIS IS RELATIVELY IDENTIFIABLE
MEN'S CLOTHING FROM THE LATE
1800s, AND YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A
LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE
TELEPHONE LINES, BECAUSE YOU'LL
KNOW WHEN THE TELEPHONE POLES
WERE BASICALLY PUT IN, SO IT HAS
TO BE AFTER THAT POINT.
SO, YOU'RE AFTER 1879 WHEN THE
POLES STARTED COMING IN, OKAY,
LOOKING ROUGHLY AT THE TURN OF
THE CENTURY AT THIS PARTICULAR
PICTURE.
>> SO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT
BUILDINGS AND TECHNOLOGY AND
WHAT PEOPLE ARE WEARING TO
REALLY KIND OF HELP YOU NARROW
WHERE IT IS AND WHAT TIME IT WAS
TAKEN, RIGHT?
>> DEFINITELY.
>> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, I'VE GOT ANOTHER SCENE.
>> OKAY.
>> TYPOGRAPHY.
I'M LOOKING AT TYPOGRAPHY TO --
WHERE THE HILLS ARE AT.
I'M LOOKING AT GEOLOGICAL
FEATURES.
>> ONE OF THE POPULAR THINGS
THAT PHOTOGRAPHERS LIKE TO DO
FOR A WHILE, AND MAYBE STILL DO
FOR ALL I KNOW, IS TAKE PICTURES
OF MULTIPLE LINES OF
TRANSPORTATION SIMULTANEOUSLY.
TRAIN TRACKS AND URBAN TRACKS
AND THE CANAL AND THE RIVER, BUT
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
AND THIS IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF
TOWN.
CAN'T BE MORE THAN HALF A MILE
SOUTH OF TOWN.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP HERE AT
THE TOP OF THE HILL, THERE IS
UTILITY POLES, AND IT'S QUITE
POSSIBLE HERE WHAT YOU'RE
LOOKING AT IS HIGH STREET AS IT
MOVES SOUTH ALONG THAT RIDGE
WITH THE TRACKS DOWN BELOW IT
TOWARD THE RIVER.
AT THAT TIME, THE PIECE OF THE
CANAL WAS STILL IN PLACE.
IT'S GONE NOW AND SOME OF THESE
TRACKS ARE GONE NOW AS WELL.
>> AGAIN, SAME THING, THAT ED
WAS SAYING EARLIER, UM, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT TELEPHONE LINES OR
UTILITY LINES.
AGAIN, THERE'S MAPS OF THOSE
WHEN THEY GO IN OR NEW STORIES
ABOUT WHEN THOSE GO IN.
SO, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR
THESE KIND OF CLUES IN THESE
PHOTOGRAPHS THAT IDENTIFY IT.
>> GREAT.
ALL RIGHT.
THEN WE OFTEN TIMES -- PEOPLE
WILL JUST HAVE RANDOM PHOTOS OF
PEOPLE IN LOCATIONS AND THEY'RE
NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THE
BACKGROUND, SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL
US ABOUT THIS PHOTOGRAPH?
AND IS IT EVEN HERE IN COLUMBUS?
WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW THAT?
>> THE MAIN THING YOU'RE LOOKING
AT IS A PICTURE OF THESE TWO
FOLKS.
>> SURE.
>> THAT'S -- AND IT'S A PICTURE
THAT WAS TAKEN QUICKLY, PROBABLY
WITH A BOX CAMERA WITH A FELLOW
TRYING TO SNAP ONE OFF QUICKLY
AT BECAUSE HE RECOGNIZED WHO
THESE FOLKS WERE.
THEIR CLOTHING DATES FROM THE
PERIOD FROM ABOUT 1910 TO
1925-ISH OR SO.
>> THE THING THAT I'M SEEING
RIGHT AWAY IS -- THIS COMES FROM
AN ERA WHERE BUGGIES AND CARS
ARE ON THE SAME STREET.
SO AGAIN, THAT LEADS BACK TO
WHAT ED WAS SAYING ABOUT THE ERA
AND OF THE CLOTHING.
THE VEHICLES MATCH UP WITH THAT
SORT OF ERA WHERE YOU'RE HAVING
BUGGIES OR CARTS ON THE STREET
IN THE SAME TIME AS YOU'RE
HAVING EARLY AUTOMOBILES.
AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT THE
STREETS -- I'M LOOKING AT THE
STREET SIGNS, THE CHOP SUEY
SIGN, THE HOTEL --
>> DO YOU HAVE DIRECTORIES AND
THINGS HERE AT THE LIBRARY THAT
YOU'RE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK
THROUGH BUSINESS NAMES?
>> YEAH, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP.
>> USUALLY, YOU CAN GET IT
WITHIN FIVE OR TEN YEARS BASED
ON DRESSES AND WHAT'S IN THE
BACKGROUND HERE.
AND THEN YOU CAN USE CITY
DIRECTORIES AND JUST GO THROUGH
LISTS AND FIND THOSE.
UM, AND THINGS LIKE ANCESTRY
NOW, YOU CAN KEYBOARD SEARCH
THINGS IN DIRECTORIES, SO YOU
COULD TYPE IN "CHOP SUEY" IF
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NAME OF THE
PLACE.
>> THE LAST INSTANCE THAT I
WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS WAS THAT
SOMETIMES WE WILL BE LOOKING AT
AN ALBUM AND WE WILL FIND A
BUNCH OF PHOTOS.
SOMETIMES MAYBE LOOKING AT
SEVERAL PHOTOS MIGHT HELP YOU
PIECE TOGETHER WHERE IT IS IN
TIME PERIOD, RIGHT?
>> WELL, THE FIRST IS THE PALACE
THEATER WHICH IS SITTING RIGHT
THERE ON BROAD STREET JUST
PAST HIGH -- THIS IS THE
DESHLER HOTEL AT THE CORNER
WHICH WAS TORN DOWN IN 1969, SO
YOU KNOW IT'S PRIOR TO THAT.
YEAH, THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL
SHOTS OF CARS.
THERE'S CLASSIC RIGHT THERE.
BLOW THAT GUY UP, YOU MIGHT EVEN
BE ABLE TO GET A LICENSE PLATE
OFF OF IT.
WELL, EDDY DUCHIN'S ORCHESTRA IS
PLAYING AT THE PALACE THEATER,
SO THAT PLACE IT A LITTLE BIT
RIGHT THERE.
>> AND YOU COULD LOOK THAT UP IN
A NEWSPAPER ARCHIVE TO SEE WHEN
HE WAS PLAYING.
>> AND THIS IS FARTHER OUT ON
BROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE LeVEQUE TOWER IN
THE BACKGROUND.
>> AND THERE'S STILL SMOKE
COMING OUT OF THE TOWER, THE
LeVEQUE TOWER, SO THAT AGAIN
WILL HELP YOU AGE THE ERA OF THE
PHOTOGRAPH BECAUSE EVENTUALLY
THE LeVEQUE TOWER DOESN'T BELLOW
SMOKE ANYMORE.
THEY'RE NOT HEATING IT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
SO IT'S BEFORE THAT, SO YOU CAN
NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK THIS GIVES PEOPLE MORE
TOOLS TO USE WHEN THEY'RE
LOOKING AT PHOTOGRAPHY AND
THEY'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHERE IT
IS.
SO, THANK YOU, GUYS.
>> THANK YOU.
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