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Now here's the show. I'm Tom Ray and this is American Bandito. If you
do create your own things it's really easy to let it take up all of your free
time and of course you think to yourself that's what you want to do but we all
know you don't want to do it at the expense of enjoying life or family and
friends there has to be a way there has to be a balance but when you're in
charge of yourself how do you manage that so my question this week is how do
you make time for your personal life
since the people I'm talking to this season actually have a place to run I
would think that it's an even harder task for them so let's find out how they
do it Mia at Stone fence it's an easy answer
she makes the time because of her family I do a decent job of that I kind of out
while my kid was still young that I would be home when I needed to so on the
other end my payroll is probably a little higher than it should be but I
think it's important so I do a pretty good job of that Laura and her sister
take trips but they end up thinking about work as they see things around
them my sister's husband will attest that both of us are really bad at
separating things out when we go to another city we go look at their paper
stores and we try to find like the indie craft shows it usually do anyway like
but we're like this is work it's hard because there's like it's so much a part
of who I am like this store is me just to say how do you separate yourself from
it that's hard but I do find when we first opened a store I had this idea
that I would come in and I would like stand at the cash register and I would
work on art projects and I brought so many art projects into the store 2nd 3rd
year I was like that's not gonna happen there's like certain kinds of art that
you can do here there's certain like production stuff that I can do and then
there's other stuff that just requires a certain level of concentration that you
just absolutely can't do in this retail setting because your concentration has
to be under Custer's you know even when there's no one in the store there's the
potential for a customer and so you can't ever like separate yourself out
and say now is my time to really think about where I'm gonna paint next on this
piece of paper so like that kind of creating for me has moved back home
so I do have like at night things that I'm working on sometimes it's specific
for the store other times it's like a little bit of playing and in the back
half of my head I'm like how am I gonna make this into a product to sell at the
store but you know I also have to just say well this is just what it's gonna be
and sometimes it's a year later and I look at something like oh that's gonna
turn into this sometimes I'm just creating because I think for for both my
sister and I from childhood creating has always been something that we do that
was always something that our parents provided space for and you talk to
people who are runners and they would die if they couldn't run everyday right
basically that's how I that's how we are about creating so it's not really a
question of can you separate yourself from that it's that by having this store
we've been able to bring it more into our life than we would have in another
sort of work setting how do you can't along all the ideas that you get for
stuff you're gonna make in here it's really hard we have we have no books my
sister is she's a drawer so she is like constantly drawing designs for cards and
prints here and so she always has a notebook that she's carrying with her
and sketching stuff out you know so especially when we travel she'll look at
we just we went to Portland this summer and she was like oh like we want that
postcard but we want a Madison version how do we take that make a Wisconsin
version since I constantly tried to come up with ideas so I actually I had a
funny manager who she said to me once that she believes that God gives you
ideas mm-hmm and if you don't use them fast enough or well enough God takes
them away from you that just seems mean I know I have so many ideas and sounds
like I just need to write everything down and then God can't take the road
for me so far I still have little books
Tammy from bohemian bobble tells me that it's the other way she actually needs
help staying focused on work I'm kind of good at that sometimes too good
sometimes it's hard for me to stay motivated especially like in October
every October I say I'm gonna take October and even though I don't have any
shows I'm gonna crank crank crank and build up my inventory and it'll be
smooth sailing through the holidays and every year I don't do that I'm just kind
of lazy yeah like Netflix binge watching so I'm not I really need a show to get
me motivated hmm so like my show season will start this weekend and I'm think I
better make some stuff this week although I still have a pretty good
inventory from from over the summer but family time is harder though because
shows around the weekend so that is a little bit more difficult then your kids
are getting to the age where they don't want to go to them well my daughter I
almost kind of forced her to come with you you have to and like I do the
farmers market on the square so I'll be like Jim come on let's go and she'll
like nap under the table during the day or it's early yeah it is early but I can
usually convince her with food and smoothies and things like like beans
Pizza yeah yeah or whatever my son never wants to go but he'll help sometimes so
you have a harder time separating the work into your family life yeah huh yeah
pretty impressive look at you being all conscious your family Leah and Rebecca
at booth 121 our family so they spend lots of time together at work and
outside of it well we don't know especially since for family yeah yeah
well I mean when you show up for a family thing you can't go hey what my
husband's very involved in this and he builds stuff for us and so he's
interested in it it's just more of a conversation area Rebecca and I see each
other enough so that we can handle business at work we don't have to take
it outside of work I have a question I can text her when I need it yeah but
we've been on family vacations together we have family dinner almost every
Sundays we never talk about work that snippet and that's more one of us was
there and the other one wasn't and something major happened and that lasts
for five minutes but you know as you know you have kids
and so sometimes when you get home you don't have any options yeah it's no
longer about work so they really keep us focused on making our home time about
being at home and I didn't realize coming into this just how close-knit
this whole hobby so big because other sister mom well she always thought
that's something that we were missing in the store is more clothing so is she
Rebecca and I have no fashion sense we cannot be trusted when they had no it
she's kind of she saw was that numerous times yes yeah I don't know if there's a
ploy to get us to dress better or so she started she is now into the buying of of
clothing and she's got a couple of clothing lines here that's nice
yes sale yeah so she's no she's involved in the business as well but again I
don't think when we have when we get together outside of here because we we
do it often yeah so it I guess maybe that's the other part technology makes
it so easy that if I have a question I can just ask it and I'm gonna get an
answer whether it's in five minutes or four hours but it's still gonna get it
so when we actually do see each other by that point thanks for pretty much
Anastasia of confection ich takes trips with their husbands to stock up the shop
but she still needs to be reminded to leave it once in a while I exercise
every day I hang out with my husband I have four
grandkids you have travels a big part of what we do I spend time drumming I spend
time in my studio sometimes my daughter will call she'll say weary and I say oh
I'm at the shop putting final touches on a I said I should be done today and she
says mother you're never done and it's true it's true I could stay here I've
got to limit myself but I could stay here forever oh I should move this or
hang this or what other idea comes to mind but I have to tell myself I have to
be done and leave and I have a deal with the lady at the desk
she'll come knock on my door and she'll let me know when she's leaving for the
night and then that's my I need to leave for the night you have to have somebody
tell you to go to bed
tami at hedge arthouse says she needs to learn to separate things when she does
get a day off she was able to hire some employees to help her deal with that
recently I think that's the eternal question for an artist or somebody that
owns the small businesses how to find balance in their life and ongoing
struggle for sure but I I try to take off one day a week and it's hard though
cuz I almost always work from home when I like tomorrow is close to Monday's
supposed to be my day off but I know I have so much to do so I'll be doing a
lot of admin but I do I just I'll just go for a bike ride or do something just
where I don't have to think about work but right now honestly there is no set
time or anything and I do yoga it's nothing that's making you go oh what did
I get myself into no I mean I think I can imagine it'd be like having a second
child they think it's gonna be a breeze because you already have one and that
one is doing great but but once you have once it happens you're like wait this is
a lot more work than than I thought it would be but it's also very fulfilling
and I really enjoy it so you I may be working a lot but I also
it's nothing that I don't go home and cry at night you know I mean there's a
lot of times where I have to keep myself away just because I know I need to have
a day off from the shop but I do have some great employees so I don't I know I
don't have to be here all the time physically it is it's just balance is
just one of those questions so hard I don't know when it's ever gonna happen
for me and maybe I've actually achieved balance and I just haven't realized that
you know maybe I don't need to have like a regular schedule I actually know that
made me think when did you decide to take on employees when hazel started
before that I had did have some artists that would help me out in hatch so they
would just come in and basically volunteer their time for a couple hours
and then that gave me some time to run errands I go to the bank or do whatever
I needed to do but I also had shorter hours we weren't open on Mondays and
yeah so I extended things a little bit once both came into place
Janet mother fools he does what I'm guilty of he occupies his time by
switching to one of the other projects that he works on so he doesn't burn out
on one outlet I do a lot of things photography music it's really easy for
me to just kind of work around the clock and a lot of times that's fine because I
like everything I'm doing it's not like it's not like I'm going to a factory and
punching in and working on the clock every couple hours I'm changing activity
I've got a edit these photos oh I'd better run over and do paperwork about
it fools it's like I'm actually yeah merely doing things I enjoy not 100% but
mainly but you don't feel like you're neglecting anybody or anything in your
personal life sometimes okay I've never definitely have been relationships that
I have had to just kind of for go because schedules didn't work out and
I'm not willing to give up a lot of the things I want to do so yeah I've had
that yeah anything you do in this world there's a cost and a benefit but I get
the ink from the hole you're not punching a time clock going okay time to
drill the washers or what I don't know why that's the example I went with I
guess for some reason I pictured engineering since 1/1000 is still a
fairly new business she doesn't think she makes enough time yet I'm really
struggling with something that I'm working on and it's actually something I
mean I laugh but it's serious because I learned I had an epiphany last week that
I make okay I created this community in this business around things that I loved
and now there might work and now I don't and I don't participate in them because
I'm like I'm the Builder behind-the-scenes and so
when we do a workshop I don't take them because I'm hosting them and that's
really sad to me because those are all things that I love doing I used to have
friends over and we would make stuff and I used to bake things and selmak now
what do I like it's a whole new world for me and I'm like well I really love
building a business but it's not healthy do not have downtime so it's at and I'm
in this interesting phase where it's really critical for me to be working 60
or 80 hours a week but it's also very unhealthy because you it's really it's
in all those down times whenever I actually take them when I have like the
biggest aha moments anyway but definitely running my own business and
running the studio it's totally a work-life blend I don't even think
there's gonna be like I here's my work life and here's my home life anymore
like that's not possible and that I'm okay with that it's more so I need to be
making time to take care of myself and take care of the people I love that's
something that when somebody doesn't predefined your day for you anymore like
when you don't have to be to work from 7:00 to 4:30 or whatever you have to
figure that out and that's a little bit more challenging it's to figure out I've
been taking the dogs to the dog park almost daily for a walk and I listen to
podcasts mmm I'm I walk and that has been a step in the right direction
I took a workshop oh you did yeah I took Monday and last weekend in the world is
mending mending a modern mending it's mending your clothing oh you know I used
to do that and it's back don't call it darning technique to repair Dean it's
got a certain stitch yeah I took home ACK and that was about the extent of my
sewing and or mending knowledge Kyle at pieces on imagined has a pretty solid
attitude about his free time it's his and he's gonna find ways to use it
that's the one thing that I have done pretty well but I'm basically out of
here by for everyday okay and I'll come in maybe at 8:00 and then I might do
some overtime here and there but I make sure I have fun we get away I have a
cabin up north make sure we get to it yeah get into a conference last week in
Florida do it just get away you have to because that's why wasn't workaholic
before and in the antique store I had it was major successful but I was like
working 18 hours a day maybe he like literally and I did that for years and
it was that was foolish yeah you don't want to burn out on your own place no
way was it you just wasting life life is meant to enjoy yeah and that's one of
the reasons a lot of people start doing things like this is because they want to
enjoy it right and then I usually lose themselves and I will admit sometimes it
does feel like it encroaches but at least now I'm old enough to be able to
say if the place fails fine mmm it's gonna fail I'm gonna enjoy
I mentioned before that like John I just switch up what project I do but to
explain it more I have a few things that help me balance that I use the Pomodoro
method when I can which is I set up a 20 minute timer when I'm working on
something and when it stops I take a 20-minute break usually to do something
else that isn't project related like I take a walk or something I even do this
at work it helps clear my head sometimes I come back and have more
ideas for what I was doing also I set appointments on my calendar each day to
make sure I do something else even if it's something simple like watch a movie
with my wife or go out to dinner otherwise I would just tell myself I'll
do it later or I'll do it tomorrow so far it's helped me figure out how to
work on several things at a time so I just thought I'd mention it Thanks to
everyone who spoke with me on the show today and thanks for listening if you
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