- Edward Ricourt is a writer and producer known
for Now You See Me, Now You See Me 2, both major films.
He also did Marvel's TV series, Jessica Jones, which is
on Netflix, and I had him on the podcast
a little while ago to talk about
how he puts deals together, what his day-to-day looks
like, what is life like for a writer on these major shows,
and here are the takeaways from
my conversation with Edward Ricourt.
If you wanna listen (crinkles)
to the full episode, it's down in the description below.
First we talked about how to keep
your projects going for a long time.
- [Edward] Directors have
it hard, because Louis Leterrier, that did Now You See Me,
the first one, I think he signed
onto the project 2009, 2010, and he was devoted
to doing that movie over the course of three years,
where me as a writer,
I've already written the script,
so I could go on and do other work, and I've done three
or four things during that period
of time,
so I can keep working, but directors,
they're there for the long haul.
- Then we touched on creating original work
versus helping others do better.
- [Edward] It's a mixed bag.
I find that I have the best luck
with my own stuff, but
the more established you get,
the more things that are sent your way.
So, if I'm writing a script, it's just
I think I have an idea, and I'm going
to gamble on myself, but if you wanna be
working in town, you can't be solely a spec scriptwriter.
You wanna do these assignments and stuff.
So, other properties ends up taking most of your time.
- I asked him about how writing projects happen.
- [Edward] What I find, the most common thing is
your agent calls you and says,
"Hey, Producer X is going to do this movie.
"He loves your work.
"He wants to meet with you,"
and you'll have a nice conversation,
and then maybe in two weeks, you'll
come back with a 20-minute, fully fleshed-out vision,
a pitch, of what you want this to be,
and if the producer loves it, he's like,
"Great, I love your vision," then you go
to the studio and do the same process
all over again, but now you have the producer on your side.
That's usually how it happens with projects.
- I noticed he wrote Now You See Me,
but he was just a producer on
Now You See Me 2, just a producer, right?
This is my entire life is being a producer,
but I asked him about that.
What happened with Now You See Me 2?
- [Edward] My decision not to do
Now You See Me 2 is beyond creative,
it's also I didn't wanna be the guy
that did Now You See Me 2, three, four, five, six.
Everybody was offering me magic-themed stories,
and I wanted to just go the other way.
I remember sitting in the room
talking about Now You See Me 2, and I felt
that itch like
I just wanna do something different.
I don't wanna just be the guy that's a one-trick pony.
- I asked him what goes into a pitch
at his level in the business?
- [Edward] If I'm writing a spec script, I think the
script will speak for itself, and I don't have to pitch.
If I want somebody to pay me to write the script,
I'll go in with a pitch. (laughs)
You start off with a regular, "How you doin'?" conversation,
"How's the wife?" and with Now You See Me,
it's like you come in and you talk about the idea of magic.
What is it about it that excites you personally?
You're basically telling the producer,
"Why I am the right fit to write this."
You talk about
the genre it is, the tone, the characters, the story.
- And then Edward talked about
having a personal connection to the project.
- [Edward] Ocean's Eleven nailed the heist genre.
There's been so many great movies,
The Italian Job, that has nailed the heist genre,
so I can't make it about the money.
In my mind, it had to be about something else,
and I grew up in New York, I worked
at the World Trade Center, and I lived down on Wall Street.
I saw all these guys carrying out boxes of their belongings
from Lehman Brothers and all these
banking firms, and I thought that
there was something going on where people were
really down-and-out and losing their homes
that felt like an interesting place to explore.
That was the root of what I wanted the story to be.
It's still there, you gotta pay attention
to it a little more, but it's still
there.
- Thanks for watching the video.
If you want the full (crinkles)
episode, that's down in the description below.
If you want the proposal we used on new-business calls,
that's experiment27.com/proposal.
We've got a whole bunch of other
free stuff down in the description.
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I'm Alex Berman, thanks.
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