Hello everyone, this is Chaos of the Muse
Clàudia Giralt Monedero
and today we have a guest, her name is Yolanda Benages
and I'm going to interview her about women archetypes
and femenine energy in general.
we're going to deal with the topic
at a basic level, as a start,
so everyone, even those who are not familiar with it
can get to know the basics.
Well, I met Yolanda about a year ago, I think
because I was researching about feminine cycles, such and such,
to further explore my feminity and my feminine energy, how to heal it and everything
and I don't know how, I don't remember, I bumped into Yolanda, I think I saw a youtube video or something like that
so I contacted her.
And she helped me a lot,
I started with the course about Goddesses that she teaches
where every month we work with a different Goddess and you have to
see the Goddess in you and you have to see yourself in the Goddess you're working with.
I did that for a couple of months and she also helped me find my way
and my purpose, actually, I think I started with Chaos of the Muse, my personal project
thanks to her.
So this is the introduction, if you want to you can talk a bit about yourself, Yolanda
First I'd like to thank you
for inviting me to your chanel, I'm very happy to see someone I've worked with
and their development, and this beautiful project that I love, well, makes me feel proud,
yeah, why not say it.
Not proud as in my ego, but of you, of seeing girls that are working and improving.
Well, to introduce myself, I've been
working for 18 on personal growth.
I started with yoga,
exactly 18 years ago I started yoga and belly dancing
and since these techniques have always been practised specially by women
after some time, after 3 years, I began teaching both disciplines
so I've always worked with lots of women and they'll tell me about their experience,
what is blocking them
then I started absorbing like a little sponge everything that was happening around me.
Then I discovered moon cycles
and menstrual cycles, I trained with Miranda Gray as my moon mother,
then I started working with paganism,
I am pagan,
and suddenly I started working
instinctively with a Goddess, actually the one we're working with in May, which is Aphrodite
and with this work, since I found it very useful, I thought, why not work with other Goddesses too.
Then I spent a whole summer
studying, investigating with the tools I already knew,
because I had led woman's circles too, 2 in Barcelona,
and I created a system, like you said, it's a wheel,
a wheel that lasts a year and we work with a Goddess each month, with different characteristics
and this wheel at the same time is in harmony
with the year's energies
here in the northern hemisphere,
Although I've also worked with women in South America
and they haven't had any problems following it.
Well, we've been following this archetypes
and from there,
I created my web, called like me, where I offer this and other courses
focused specially in personal and spiritual growth
and now I'm starting to get into, since I'm a priestess,
and I'm interested and I've studied and I practise the esoteric occidental tradition
I'm starting to talk about that too, but, well,
we'll leave this project for later.
And here we are, women evolving while I evolve with them too.
Very interesting, actually, I think I contacted you about
a year ago or so, because I started with the one after Aphrodite,
I remember you told me, I don't remember which one it was, I think it was the warrior
No, after Aphrodite comes the Mother,
we work with the Mother archetype, which are Isis and Demeter, in my case they're the Goddesses I work it with
I started with Isis, I remember. But I remember you told me, you should work with Aphtodite too,
so I'll put you in both courses so you'll work the Mother and the Lover too.
Because sometimes when we're in the role of the Mother we kind of forget about the role of the Lover
They are complementary, yes.
Great, if you want to
I'd like you to tell us a bit about what the moon cycle is,
well, the menstrual cycle, and how it's related, and then
how it affects a woman's body or her general experiences of her everyday life.
Ok, well, coming from the premise that we're cyclic, not only humans, but also nature,
the universe, everything is cyclic. Like it's said, I don't know if you know it,
in the Kybalion, which is an essential reading for everyone who wants to get into growth, who like the topics
of energy and the topic of
greek knowledge too, everything is cyclic.
Can you repeat that?
The Kybalion
With a K and a Y
Okay, perfect, I'll put it on the screen when I edit the video so people will have it.
I'll continue
Yeah, sorry
Well, coming from the premise that we're all cyclic,
obviously, women, due to their cycles, they have it even more present, because it's about hormones,
but women who don't menstruate because they're on their menopause,
or because some hormone or health problem they can't menstruate
they can follow moon cycles. The moon, we all know it moves tides,
it moves water and a big part of us is water.
Obviously we're affected by nature, just like you don't feel the same during summer than during winter
or you don't feel the same during rainy days or during sunny days.
We're completely connected to nature.
I included this in my system because I thought it was really important
and we're not working only with the cycle, we're working in every level, because once you learn how it works
you can work with the anual cycle, the menstrual cycle, the moon cycle, and so on.
So we have these... it's like the phases of the moon,
we also have four weeks, like the moon, where we change our
we could call it "phase".
For example, there's the menstruation, which is when we're cleaning ourselves, and our body needs more rest,
we need to go inwards
and there we put the archetype, well... this is from one of the autors
I took inspiration from, Miranda Gray, you can find all of it in her book, "Red Moon",
it's a very very interesting read.
As I was saying, during that time we are like more inwards,
we need more rest, if we can it'd be good to schedule our life
according to the rhythm we have, because lots of times we do the opposite
or we think we are always the same and then we are in a bad mood and exhausted,
things happen, we don't feel good and it's because we're going
backwards or not listening to what our body or cycle needs.
In this phase, which is the phase of the Witch or the Elder,
we need to go inwards. Once we're done cleaning, our energy is renewed again,
after all, what happened is your body has cleaned itself,
just like nature cleans itself,
your body has paralysed, like in winter where everything seems to stop
and then it blossoms again. This would be the archetype of the Maiden, when we are more active,
it belongs to the crescent phase of the cycle,
and that is the moment
to go outwards, all the projects you've been brewing while you were inwards and
you've had time to think and plan,
it's time to start them, I don't know, if you have some job interviews,
if you have some projects that require you to spend more time outside or with others, that's the right moment.
The next part of the cycle is when we're ovulating
which is the cycle of manifestation, the feminine archetype is the mother,
precisely because we're in the moment when we can conceive.
It's a moment we can use to
reap what we've sown and what we've made blossom.
Finally, there's the archetype of the Enchantress
when we're premenstruating, that's when lots of women
may have mood swings
precisely because their body is full of hormones, hormones are moving continuously
and in these cases, if you don't indulge yourself, if you don't understand yourself,
many women end up exploding
and then there's that person who says "you're on your premenstrual syndrome, and that's why..."
And then you complain and people complain because you're in a bad mood, and so on, and these are...
If you can understand these cycles and you assimilate them
and give time to integrate them in yourself
I think your life will be much more harmonious,
you reconcile, I've seen many women who have reconciled with their period,
because sometimes women feel like their period is something annoying,
something they shouldn't be experiencing to enjoy other things
when, if you learn about it, you can enjoy each and every phase.
For example, you can discover many things,
personally, I discovered that while I'm premenstruating
is when I dream the most, I remember what I dream and many of these dreams help me, give me answers.
And, well, this is something you have to work on so it can help you on your daily life.
Ok, that's very interesting, and you were telling me
before we started recording that even though there are four basic archetypes
you have added in your work another one, the Lover, which would be Aphrodite.
Do you add it to the whole cycle or is there a particular space for her during the month?
Well, I reserve the month of May for Aphrodite, between the warrior and the mother
I thought it was very important to add this archetype
because despite all this I've told
it's important to work on the Lover, but with a well understood Lover, not an outwards Lover, but a Lover of yourself.
Ok, this is specially destined to women, and women have suffered culturally during years
an education that doesn't teach us to love ourselves inwards, but to love outwards.
Women usually have the role of the mother, the caretaker,
and we forget, it's as if there were two parts, the Mother, which is more chaste,
not chaste in a sexual sense, but in the sense that she doesn't have that sensual or playful part, she is the caretaker,
and then there's the Lover, which is the other type.
We are all of them, not just one,
and that's mostly why I started working with Aphrodite before creating the system,
because I had forgotten that part, in my case it was because I became a mother
so you get in that role and you forget that other part, which also has consequences,
if you have a partner, for example, they might feel abandoned
or you can abandon yourself, in the sense that you don't want to do things for yourself,
or enjoy things that really fulfill you and not only others
that's why I thought it was very important to include this archetype and a space just for her.
That's in the anual cycle,
but when you work on this archetype monthly, as in the moon phases, does this archetype have an influence
somewhere or is it something you do generally in all the phases?
Yes, this course lasts a year so we can include every archetypes of our life
and even though I reserve a time for each one, women who have done the whole wheel
already know they have to include
and add an archetype to the next one because it depends on the moment of your life you are
because not every woman feel the same or are in the same cycle.
Excuse me if the camera is moving, because I have a cat that wants to be famous
We want to see him!
He's always in my videos.
So handsome, what's his name?
Merlin
Because he's a little wizard, and he always wants to be everywhere and he's always moving around.
Well, now he's famous
Well, as I was saying,
the beautiful part of this is that you learn how to regulate yourself, because my intention is
to walk the path with you but once
you've walked it, whichever you want, because
not every woman wants to walk the whole path,
but anyway, once you leave this path you can
regulate yourselves at any time of your lives and I think the archetype of the Lover is like in the middle
and goes from one to the other, because with the archetype of the Lover is where
you learn to love yourself because of how and what you are, or what you do and don't
then it doesn't matter which archetype you're in, this one is complementary, that's why I included it,
I think it's very interesting
to work on it, because I also have a course on Aphrodite alone, only about this archetype,
or as a complement to all the rest.
Interesting, for you it's like the basic one, like love
and from love you work with the others.
Exactly.
Ok, I wanted to ask you something else
or to comment something, what do you think about this, I guess it's different for every woman,
but when I started working on my cycles and all of this, I realised
that the cycle of the Enchantress, I ovulate around the 10th or 11th,
and then I'm an Enchantress for half a cycle or more
Is that normal?
Yes, as you said, every woman's body is different, for what it's worth, it's the same for me
every body is different, that's the beautiful part, right?
To learn, it's something that teaches you how to manage all this cycles and the parts of the cycles
We've had a small technical problem
But we're back
and I think we were talking about the Enchantress, I was saying that in my case
the archetype of the Enchantress lasts more than half a menstrual cycle and she said it's the same for her as well
and I also feel that in every archetype there are different phases
because I'm not the same during the 28 days,
well, it fluctuates.
Normally when I'm closer to my period
I'm like in tension.
I think that's because it's time to stop and say: "let's see what's happening inside me, what's this tension"
and then things start coming
out of your unconscious, I think, and you start to realise
what's going on inside of you.
Or at least that's how it is for me.
Yes, of course, this is like the seasons, because we're told that spring begins the 21st of March,
well, yeah, the 21st of March is officially spring,
but it comes with a process, first we start seeing plant's green buds
then flowers, the little ones,
it's the same with our body.
But what's important is to give yourself the oportunity to get to know yourself, to observe yourself
and then you'll start identifying all this in yourself, like you already did,
I can see you're very conscious of how it works for you.
For me, for example, what you were saying about the archetype of the Enchantress,
that you were...
that things were coming out of your unconscious, thatyou needed to stop, for me it's the dreams,
it's a stage of the month
where I dream more than usually and the messages I get in my dreams
are important, they tell me where to go,
answers I was looking for
or things I hadn't seen, that happens a lot, because we're on "autopilot"
so we miss many things and this is the work we have to do,
to reconnect so it doesn't happen again, which will give you
a better sense of intuition, really,
so we're also increasing our intuition,
and it's one of the things that will help us
in this sense, that at the same time it will help us to see
in important moments of our life, crossroads, as I call it,
it helps to see more or less where to go and not to get stuck in "what to do, what to do, what to do".
I also think it's very important for women, or at least for me, to be conscious of this cycle, because when you have no idea
but you're going through these ups and downs
caused by hormones but also the cycle,
if you have no idea of what's going on you'll end up thinking you're crazy or something, because you're like:
"oh, I'm depressed again",
but instead, when you start being conscious of that being part of the cycle, you think:
"well, that's how it is now", and you deal with it a different way,
which can help you
and you know it's part of the cycle, and after that phase there'll be another one
where maybe you'll be more open
or more... well, it's good to have some peace of mind,
to know it's all because of this, I don't know.
Yes, absolutely, I've seen women who feel like you said, "am I going crazy? What's going on?"
with the anxiety it brings.
Imagine, you're like a little fish and your cycle is the current and it takes you here and there
and you're being carried away, you don't have control over your life,
something that important. And you can extrapolate it to other things.
If you realise in this sense, smaller because it's a monthly cycle,
that you're inside this cycle and that the cycle has a higher and a lower part,
and that, well, in the lower part it's time to think about how to handle things,
maybe not acting yet, because you're not strong enough at that moment,
or planning how to do it or thinking: "I'll get over it".
Imagine you can extrapolate it to your life, to every situation you find yourself into,
because life is cyclic.
From the biggest cycle, which is life, death and rebirth, for people who believe in reincarnation
to everything that happens in our life.
For example, everyone has been through a breakup in their life, right?
Maybe because a relationship broke
or because that person passed away
or whatever, or they left, or something.
You'll have this cycle, your mourning cycle,
first you'll be down, but if you are aware that it's a cycle, you won't get stuck there
you know you have to get through it and later on you'll have more strenght to handle it,
and in the end you'll be okay and when you have another cycle about something else, it'll be the same.
To sum up, it affects you and you should learn about it to apply it in every aspect of your life.
It's important for women to be aware of this
and I think it's also important for men to know
to understand women better, maybe.
Now, for example, that I have a partner, I've talked to him a lot about this
and of course he understands me much better because he knows what part of my cycle I'm on, and he knows that sometimes
I react a certain way because of that cycle.
I think it's important for both parts
to know a bit about it.
Yes, luckily, I like to see the bright side of life, and I'm seeing more and more men
who understand, who connect with this subject, that's specific to us
and it's beautiful to share, first because it helps you bond with your partner,
there are even men who understand it better, who are the ones to tell their partner
"hey, you're in this cycle, in this part of the cycle, because I see you more like this"
and the woman might not be aware
but not only with your partner, every relationship
you have in you life, maybe you talk to your friend a certain way because you're...
But if you have this understanding, well, you don't have to tell that to your friends,
But you know what you're going through and you can talk to them.
Or later, with your partner, so you don't have misunderstandnigs,
and not having unnecessary arguments, it's just
something natural that's happening
and we sometimes can't control it because we don't even realise.
But you can both keep connecting and strengthening the relationship, why not?
Well, we should be finishing with a last question because I'm scared we'll get disconnected again
and we'll be left hanging.
I'd like you to maybe give advice to women who
want to start becoming conscious of their cycle
how would you suggest them to start this path to understanding.
Well, I always recommended in woman's circles a read I've mentioned before, "Red Moon" by Miranda Gray
which helps understand with tales and ideas you can put into effect.
It's very useful to begin, also, self-observation,
because, of course, we all have our differences,
obviously we're not all the same.
And trying to, I know it's hard, I said it before, it's hard but it can be done,
trying to schedule, once you know how your cycle is and how it works, the activities you do
I mean,
for example, I know that just before menstruation
I feel very tired
then during those days I try to leave some free time for a nap
or maybe if the the house is...
I have to clean but I'm too tired, I give myself permission, and that's another subject, giving ourselves permission,
I give myself permission to go to bed instead of doing something else that can wait, and it's okay.
Honouring oneself a bit and not working, not being all the time as if we were robots
that want to be all the time the same, that's what's being taught to us.
So learning to take care of yourself every once in a while,
once you know yourself trying to
be consistent with your own nature
is very useful and, in my experience, it has helped many women
to come to terms with their menstrual cycle.
Okay, thank you so much
for your time and for sharing this with us
I think it's very interesting and it can really help many women
to be happier with themselves and the world in general
and I hope I can interview you again sometime about some of this subjects
maybe not so generally and more specifically, so if you want to add
one last point or...
No, I want to thank you and the people who follow you
for watching us
and well, when you want to, here I am, pleased to share.
Great, thank you.
I'm going to leave her chanel here, in case you want to subscribe,
also her facebook page and social media
so you can contact her too if you're interested in the Goddesses course
or need a spiritual coach
which she helped me with too, to find my purpose.
So that's it, thank you, we'll keep in touch.
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