every day we wake up and we go at it
  again and come evening and you're crying
  about how yeah we're blaming and shaming
  and negative with them and having a
  nasty face Adam and you're surprised
  welcome to the focus on the family
  broadcast helping families thrive ladies
  welcome back to focus thank you you guys
  have really struck a chord with moms
  whether the issue last time when we had
  you was on anger yes women and anger and
  and and this time with the parenting
  issues kind of the basics but what are
  you seeing that you're connecting so
  well with the mother community well I
  think that we're just I would like to
  say that we're smart and so we're
  talking about things that we perceive
  and I know but I think that we're just
  moms who have truly struggled ourselves
  and we have turned with all of our
  hearts and all of our prayers to the
  Lord and said Lord we want to look more
  like you in the way we're responding to
  our children and less like our natural
  knee-jerk responses and we can't do that
  without you we know that the fruit of
  your Spirit is love joy peace patience
  kindness goodness faithfulness
  gentleness and self-control but my
  parenting doesn't look that like that I
  I know that you've told me if I abide in
  you and you abide in me there will be
  fruit so where's the fruit God and so we
  just started pursuing what does it look
  like to put on the fruit to keep in step
  with this fruit of God's Spirit in my
  life in the parenting life in the
  parenting as he continues to mature me
  from the inside and the fruit grows up
  and out and hangs on the laurels of my
  life
  how can I still start practicing love
  joy peace and all the other you know one
  one descriptor you left off which i
  think is an important one too is the
  tears that moms cry yeah sometimes
  because of their own guilt yeah you know
  they got angry lord help me why do I get
  angry at my kids speak to that before we
  get into the scripting idea because I
  think moms carry such a heavy burden
  I've seen it gene I mean it's almost
  unbearable yeah well you're totally
  speaking my language because that was me
  I would say you know before I had kids
  there's certain things I'm never gonna
  say words matter I hear so many other
  parents say oh I'm so mad at myself I
  promised myself I wouldn't speak like
  that to my children and then we get in
  the heat of the moment and we just have
  that knee-jerk reaction that default
  phrase or thing that we say the shaming
  language whatever it is that just flows
  right naturally off of our tongues and
  we do feel a lot of guilt and we say oh
  you know I'm hopeless as a mom why do I
  keep doing that and I began to realize
  that as one day led to the next and I
  kept saying the things I did not want to
  say that I didn't have a good plan in
  place I just simply didn't translate
  those verses that Wendy just stared
  about the fruit of the Spirit I wasn't
  thinking and making a plan
  what does putting on self-control for
  myself look like in the way I respond to
  my child instead of reacting to them and
  I can have hope knowing that God's gonna
  help me yeah he promises me that fruit
  I'm not the worst mom on the planet I'm
  a sinner who's struggling but there's
  hope for me to change because God is the
  God of all hope and so I have the
  ability by lying on the Lord and asking
  him to help me Lord changed this one
  thing in me this one thing I'm saying
  wrong help me make a plan and to say
  something that honors you and really
  coaches my child and breathe life into
  well and I love that she's saying this
  one thing because what I say to the
  woman who's crying is hey if you take a
  moment I bet you can pinpoint what that
  trigger is that's that's bringing you to
  that place that makes you feel defeated
  and you're doing the wrong response your
  face is all screwy and you're you're
  exasperated and you're slamming
  cupboards in the kitchen and what is it
  that consistently your kids are doing
  over and over that always takes you by
  surprise why are you surprised always in
  the car or it's why is he always coming
  out of bed and I'm exhausted at the end
  of the day and if you can pinpoint what
  it is you know one of one of the things
  that we shared with you guys last time
  based on our book triggers which is
  really about mommy anger is figure out
  what you mean
  to say before you say something mean so
  take a look at those times when you're
  really struggling and say okay know what
  do I really mean to say mm-hm and if I
  can slow down and sit down then I can
  write down a better response yeah let's
  get to this kind of the can do make a
  change yes you heard that that that
  quote that says the the definition of
  insanity is doing the same thing over
  and over and expecting a different
  response that's why being a parent
  saying in every day you do the same old
  lecture and one day you're just hoping
  it's gonna it's gonna click for him no
  you actually let's stop the lecture
  let's come up with what we really mean
  to say all right and sometimes the
  script is a consequence right so you
  smarty you've already been lectured
  about a sibling rivalry but let's say
  that was your first example right so
  they've heard all about they've heard
  all the verses about brothers living
  together in unity we've gone through all
  of the Bible studies well he's really
  all right they don't care this is a
  pretty classic response by a Christian
  mom to quote scripture or maybe you have
  the children write them out multiple
  times
  yeah but how can if they already know it
  one of the things that amber and I
  remind each other because we are friends
  too so I will actually call her and say
  I'm struggling with this I did not know
  now that they're getting older so we're
  always reminding each other you know
  Wendy you don't need to lecture him he
  knows that that's wrong behavior so
  let's take it from sibling rivalry I
  come in first thing in the morning and
  they're already swinging if not with
  their hands then with their words right
  and my natural tendency just my natural
  response is that if they're fighting I
  need to fight them to stop fighting
  right you know their fight is actually
  an invitation for me to join them in the
  fight and I had to change my mind and
  that's actually one of my scripts when
  my kids are struggling I'll tell them I
  see that you're struggling you need to
  change your mind about how you're gonna
  struggle and so I've been using that
  script on myself I see und that they're
  fighting and you want to join them in
  the fight you
  to change your mind about how you're
  gonna respond to this so I have started
  seeing them like they're in a boxing
  ring and they're swinging at each other
  and the coach does not jump into the
  boxing ring the coach stays on the
  outside of the ring walks around to
  their corner and is communicating I'm in
  your corner and you're struggling I'm
  not struggling because I'm the parent
  I'm the one here to help you through the
  struggle so I've had to learn when my
  kids are having a fight their sibling
  rivalry I stay on the outside of the
  fight and I call them to their corners
  so I'll say out loud ding-ding-ding
  everybody to your corners and that's my
  simple script so there's a simple script
  and then there's a lecture so do they go
  to their corner well I had to train them
  that this is actually what we do and
  they're older now so I have a 14 year
  old that when I say everyone to your
  corners he goes to his room and he knows
  this isn't really like it's not a
  timeout it's a gift you get to go to
  your room you can read you can write you
  can play your guitar you can kids can do
  Legos but you may not fight and so
  that's another one of my school says you
  may not fight yeah and that's good and I
  like that in the concept of the script
  is think it out ahead of time when your
  kids fight and you've listed 30 in this
  book which is outstanding if you cover
  30 you've covered most of the things
  you're going to encounter but let me
  take you to the sibling rivalry script
  because having two boys we've had a few
  of those and and the point is in the
  training of them you know it's great the
  outcome is there now you can go ding
  ding to your corners and they've learned
  to go but the parent who hasn't done
  that it's the training and I had to tell
  by the hand and walk right take him by
  the hand walk okay and it's they come
  right immediately after it I take them
  right yeah and do you need me to sit
  here with you while you learn to have a
  break and I'll tell you why you're
  having a break you're gonna hurt your
  brother you're gonna hurt your
  relationship and I'm your mom and I'm
  not going to allow that I love you too
  much I love him too much
  you know I can think of a couple of
  times when the kids were younger and
  they're in a public place and you can't
  it's not at home where you can say ding
  ding ding let's go to your corner
  because the corner is the other end of
  the store
  what are you doing that public
  environment were so many moms you know
  it's the snares and the brows that you
  get from the other mothers but your two
  kids maybe three kids are going at it
  what can you do in that public I have a
  couple of suggestions one if you can
  leave mm-hmm I mean it's true if you're
  out of toilet paper and you're out of
  milk but really you can leave and what's
  a better teaching tool to you know your
  veins are bulging and you're you know
  strong holding everybody with your hands
  and pushing the cart with your hip and
  you're just gonna make it through and
  they'll learn the lesson and then you
  you know you exploded them in the car or
  to say this isn't working and then you
  get to the car you drive home and
  oftentimes I remember those times they'd
  fall asleep almost immediately and they
  were communicating I'm not in a place
  where I can do this right but the second
  is you don't need to teach your child in
  the problem what they're doing wrong in
  the arena so my script to myself is
  don't parent in the problem save the
  lesson for later get home get calm and
  say that did not work let's talk about
  why it didn't and maybe again maybe the
  script needs to involve a consequence
  when that happens then when we come home
  you need to whatever that consequence is
  going to be in that situation if we go
  for ice cream if whatever it is that's
  good you won't get it but you don't need
  to stronghold them push through make
  sure it was the most teachable moment
  you can actually save the lesson for
  later get out there get out of there and
  it's really being the adult I mean
  that's what I hear you know I appreciate
  that you know again we're all emotional
  creatures and even we as moms and dads
  when we're in that grocery store we're
  responding out of our embarrassment
  that's right you know we're lashing back
  and get in line what are you doing come
  on stop that and it just is this vicious
  cycle so I like the idea step back don't
  don't take the bait right just be calm
  get to the car the profiles lead and
  remember the script that you can say to
  yourself as a parent sometimes we need
  to have our own internal scripts we
  write about that in the book too and
  times the internal script that I have
  when in the store and my kids are not
  behaving is their behavior is not a
  reflection of me it's not a reflection
  of me really so breathe moms are you
  serious really how do you get there
  truly it's a it takes a long time it
  really does you know to get to the point
  where you you can just breathe I just
  give myself a moment to catch my own
  breath because it's more embarrassing
  when you see kids acting out and then
  you see the parents losing their mark on
  three kids and so I just I saw that so
  much in myself initially that I thought
  you know what I'm this time it's gonna
  happen they're going to act out so when
  it happens I am going to be putting on
  self control yeah and I'm gonna breathe
  and I'm gonna remember that this is not
  a reflection of me they are their own
  sinful natures and what I get to do now
  is model you know all of these parenting
  scripts really are us modeling for our
  children how to communicate in a way
  that honors the Lord and breathe life
  into others and they'll be able to use
  that for every relationship they have
  moving forward alright let's go to
  another good one
  disobedience I said to do it why do I
  have to do it just because you said so
  because I said so
  I mean what parent hasn't heard that at
  some age I mean it's usually 10 11 12
  where they start kind of that challenge
  but speak to the disobedience factor
  those things can happen at a young age
  too I don't want to write and you know
  the response the hands are on the hips
  and you're saying because I told you or
  because I'm the parent right because I'm
  the mom and I would enough that's why
  and you know what that is true and
  there's the time for that we are the
  authority God has given us that
  authority but Wendy shared a verse
  earlier that you know we tell our kids
  the Bible talks about that it you are
  required to obey us so it will go well
  with you so that you will have a long
  life there's all these benefits to
  obedience and so we try to talk about
  those sort of organically as we go
  throughout the day like oh look at you I
  just saw that you did the right thing
  I'm very proud of you that really
  blessed me and I know that blesses the
  Lord so part of our scripts are looking
  for opportunities to be positively
  affirming them when they are obedient as
  opposed to always trying to parent and
  scripts in the aftermath of the problem
  but then you know catching them doing
  something good is a really good
  headspace great comment yeah and some
  researchers say you need ten to one five
  to one
  right affirmative that's right comments
  to one negative I read that when my kids
  were very young and I remember just
  crying like I remember this not when I
  was like but I there aren't that many
  positives and what I found the Lord say
  to me was well then there needs to be
  less negative correction well instead of
  saying I have five say that again
  because so many lit I see it I know it's
  so counterintuitive for the media to get
  that say it again you're in if the ratio
  is we need 10 positives to one negative
  and we can't manufacture enough
  positives we can't find enough positives
  well that means we need to have less
  negatives I can see the negatives and I
  can find a time to put those 25 nasty
  things my boy said to each other in one
  teachable moment
  so hey guys after we clean up the dishes
  from lunch I want you to join me on the
  white couch in the front room this is
  the rhythm that I'm noticing today
  either it's a rhythm maybe we're in a
  rhythm of disobedience we know with nose
  and why kids actually don't say no they
  say other words that mean no they do you
  know like um hey bud what we're doing
  some laundry bring the bring the laundry
  from your room and the boys bathroom
  yeah I'm just gonna bet that's there's
  no that's his teenage no yeah I'm just
  gonna means no and then twenty minutes
  goes by still no so whatever is that
  you're seeing that could have been 25
  negative Corrections take note of what
  they are and I'll bring them together
  and I'll say this is what I'm noticing
  today how can we make a choice to turn
  around so that's the script that's a
  screw-on disobedience what would be
  another example of one of the things
  that I did with my boys is I took that
  verse on obedience again
  you know I'm big on just taking one key
  area that I need to work on or that they
  need to work on at a time otherwise we
  get really overwhelmed as parents so if
  I'm working on disobedience with them I
  will talk about you know all the
  benefits of obedience in the Bible you
  know just simply casually as we're going
  about our day and one of the verses
  talks about you know that it will go
  well with you so I tell my boys I said
  this is one of the benefits of obedience
  when you obey me when you obey your dad
  it will go well with you and the
  opposite of that is that things are not
  gonna go well if you don't obey they're
  just not gonna go well and so we kind of
  talk about that you know over a couple
  of weeks and then sure enough the
  opportunity will arise where they
  inevitably will disobey and something
  will not go well for them as a result
  they will go way too high up on that on
  that you know Hill that I've told them
  not to climb up on in our backyard and
  they fall and they get hurt
  or I tell them you know you need to take
  your jacket today because your teachers
  taking you on a field trip you're going
  on a long walk nope not taking my jacket
  mommy you know there's all these natural
  consequences and sometimes it's I
  clearly told you that if you did this
  this would be the consequence that you
  would receive and now they're
  experiencing that so we know and we see
  so in those moments I'll say you know
  what son I love you I'm really sorry
  that happened but what happens when you
  don't obey and then they'll say things
  don't go well yeah they don't go well
  I'm so sorry you had to experience that
  and really good at parenting with
  empathy allowing natural consequences to
  do the work yeah and say wow as a result
  of that well you you hurt yourself as a
  result of that you can't go to youth
  group on what's known as a result of
  that and I'm sorry that must be really
  hard for you let's talk about how that
  might go better next which again what's
  so good about that it takes you out of
  the direct wiring which is allow allow
  their consequences to do the parenting
  for now asking them a question to get
  them thinking because I'm not really
  just interested in the quick fix of
  their obedience I'm really interested in
  them growing in character so that when
  they become men they think twice before
  someone pressures them into doing
  something that they know is wrong it's
  good let's get to another one before the
  close today and then next time we'll
  come back and pick it up but bedtime
  battle
  yes I share actually I think that I
  share more scripts in this chapter then
  like maybe all that Slava chapters put
  together because it has been
  consistently a problem and just the fact
  that there have been multiple scripts
  tells you that sometimes you just need
  to keep trying
  changing them up is you got multiple
  kids they go through multiple seasons
  but it can be a silent script it can be
  when they come out you don't talk take
  them by the hand I mean talking about
  little ones and you walk them back to
  bed and you do it over and over and
  another script I had a child that was
  man he already struggles with
  discontentment and always asking for
  more so I have no doubt that half the
  listener to half of half of your
  listeners right now are saying yes my
  child who's discontent is most
  discontent at bedtime the three books
  and the back tickle and the blessing and
  the song yeah and making up a story it
  just wasn't enough they're asking for
  more on they're coming out and they're
  coming out so I learned I would I would
  walk up to his bed at tuck in and I
  would say all right before I get down
  there and I cuddle with you I want you
  to tell me three things that I was just
  like I I did amazing for you today the
  first time like that's a strange request
  I said come on tell me because I know I
  did lots of really awesome things to me
  bacon that's a good ok what else did I
  do well you took us to the park and you
  picked up my friend I was like ok you
  got three already and we could go on so
  now I want you to tell me three things
  that I can do for you at tuck in that
  they're just gonna it's just gonna fill
  your heart and he said well I'd love a
  back tickle and a blessing and a story
  ok so I get them in there and I do that
  and then I said to him and this became
  really the last part of the script your
  heart is so full of all the yeses you
  got today you are not gonna call out and
  you are not going to come out and I
  walked out and I kid you not he didn't
  call out her come out
  and it was the thing and then I started
  using that I know that this we're not
  necessarily talking about discontentment
  right now but I think that that can be
  one of the things they want more and
  more and more and so during the day I
  started using it hey Caleb tell me three
  things that you've gotten a yes at today
  wow that's really wonderful you don't
  need to push for more right now but my
  favorite bedtime battle script didn't
  come from me because I had tried all the
  things and then there's still other
  problems my husband said at bedtime one
  night guys I've been watching you at
  bedtime your mom loves bedtime more than
  any other part of the day she thought
  this was gonna be just the most
  wonderful part of our family life and
  you guys push her and push her and don't
  honor her so she's not tucking anyone
  into bed tonight and the kids were like
  ooh life without a tuck in he said you
  may meet with her on the couch back to
  the couch right I still gave them
  everything I usually give him I hugged
  him I blessed am i saying their blessing
  I tickled their back sitting up and I
  sent them off and I said if you can stay
  in your room tonight I'll tuck you in
  tomorrow night and it worked and it
  worked and now when I see them coming
  out I say listen you need to head back
  and if you can't stay in bed tomorrow
  night I don't tuck you in yeah and I
  think one of the difficulties is when it
  doesn't work I you know we laughing at
  some of this but when you have what I I
  mean you were really confident in that
  moment at the tuck in time saying okay
  here's what I want from you I want you
  stay in bed and you turned around and
  you're rightfully as a parent going Lord
  made this work set the door and they
  didn't come out but speak to the mom
  who's doing that but they're coming out
  what's the next thing
  here are some seasons I think where we
  need to embrace that we're not going to
  have the ideal scenario that we really
  want and hope for as a parent and we may
  actually be missing out on something I
  remember when you know my boys were
  really struggling with us they're very
  good now about going to bed because
  we've been exceedingly consistent that's
  like we was talking about very very key
  to be consistent we have a routine that
  is as rigid as a prison system you know
  it really lies in love better food and
  a nicer bed so they should be very
  content with all of those yeses alright
  we've given them windy but so we are
  really really consistent and that helps
  we brush our teeth we have our baths we
  have a snack a little bit earlier if
  they really need it we do this story we
  do a song we do a prayer and then we
  kiss and hug and we walk out you know
  and it's a routine and they know and
  we're just very calm and loving and firm
  in our commands but there was a season
  when they kept pushing the envelope and
  I began to realize that they'd start
  talking again because they weren't
  supposed to be talking after we had the
  lights out we said our prayer it was
  silent I'd stay for a moment and then
  I'd hug and kiss and walk out but they
  keeps it but mom I really wanted and I
  was trying to just nip that in the bud
  there's no more talking now the lights
  are out right and then I began to
  realize that the things they were trying
  to share with me were very meaningful
  right they were finally quiet
  they were busy busy active boys all day
  long and doing all kinds of things and
  they didn't tell me a whole lot of
  things that were really going on in the
  inner workings of their heart but when I
  wanted them to be quiet was when their
  hearts suddenly came alive and they
  wanted to tell me mommy you know I had a
  hard time with my friend at school today
  right you know I really by the way mom I
  had this really successful moment in art
  class today and you know what my teacher
  told me like I was missing out I
  realized I was shutting down their
  opportunity to express what was going on
  in the deep parts of their heart and
  mind that they wouldn't normally tell me
  about during the day and so I had to
  discipline myself to stretch it out
  another half hour down freshest half
  hour I really was dying to go take my
  own bath you know or finally shove down
  a late dinner if it came to that you
  know whatever it was for myself I had to
  say you know what it's okay
  this season is gonna pass they need to
  tell me what's on their hearts and minds
  right now they're not trying to be
  naughty there's just so many things they
  want to express well this is so good you
  guys
  amber Leah and Wendy speak authors of
  the book parenting scripts man thank you
  for the start of this discussion I want
  to keep going and cover a few more of
  those scripts for moms and dads who are
  listening and this is an outstanding
  resource you know we when we look at a
  book we can
  kind of get bored with book we can get
  book itis but you need resources that
  will point you in really practical
  directions this is one of those very
  practical approaches to getting some of
  the basics of parenting right and like I
  said man I wish you would have written
  this 14 15 years ago for gene and me and
  I'm sure John you feel the same would do
  hey I'm John fuller and thanks for
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