So by looking at what we are pleased to call reality the physical world from
this basic standpoint of different cultures I think we're in a better
position to know where we are and if we only have one single line of sight and
therefore this has been my interest in my background that arising out of this
that has come a further quest in which I would call the problems of human ecology
how is man to be best related to his environment especially in circumstances
where we are in possession of an extremely powerful technology and have
therefore the capacity to change our environment far more than anyone else
has ever been able to do so are we going to end up not by civilizing the world
but by Los Angeles in other words are we going to foul our own nest as the result
of technology but all this gets down to the basic question is really what are
you going to do if your God if in other words you find yourself in charge of the
world through technological powers and instead of leaving evolution to what we
used to call in the 19th century the blind processes of nature that was
begging the question to call them blind but in it at any rate we say we're not
going to leave evolution anymore to the blind forces of nature but now we're
going to direct it ourselves because we are increasingly developing safe control
over genetic systems control over the nervous system control over all kinds of
systems then simply what do you want to do with it
but most people don't know what they want and I've never even seriously
confronted the question of what they want you ask a group of students to sit
down and write a solid paper of twenty pages on what is your idea of
heaven what would you really like to happen if you could make it happen and
that's the first thing that starts people really thinking because you soon
realize that a lot of the things you think you would want are not things you
want at all supposing just for the sake of illustration you have the power to
dream every night any dream you wanted to dream and you could of course arrange
for one night of dreams to be 75 years of subjective time or any number of
years of subjective time what would you do
well of course you start out by fulfilling every wish you would have
routes and orgies and all the most magnificent food and sexual partners and
everything you could possibly imagine in that direction when you got tired of
that after federal nights you'll switch a bit and you'll soon find yourself
involved in adventures and contemplating great works of art and tastic
mathematical conceptions you would soon be rescuing princesses from dragons and
all sorts of things like that and then one night of thing I look tonight what
we're going to do is we're going to forget this dream of the dream and we're
going to be really shocked and when you woke up from that one you'd say whoo
wasn't that an adventure then you would think more and more far-out ways to get
involved and let go of control knowing that should always come back to
Center in the end but while you were involved in the dream you wouldn't know
you you were going to come back to sender be in control and so eventually
you would be dreaming a dream in which impound yourselves all sitting around in
this room listening to me talking all involved with the particular life
problems that you have
and maybe that's what you're doing but here's the difficulty the difficulties
control are you wise enough to play at being God and to understand what that
question means we've got to go back to metaphysical assumptions underlying
Western common sense and whether you are a Jew or a Christian or an agnostic or
an atheist you are not coming on by the whole tradition of Western culture the
models of the universe which it is employed which influenced our very
language the structure of our thought the very constitution of logic which are
going into say computers the Western model of the universe is political and
engineering or architectural it's natural for a child to ask its mother
how as I made it would be inconceivable for a Chinese child to ask how as I made
it might ask how as I grown or how did I grow but not how as I made the desire an
artifact something put together something which is a construct but all
Western thought is based on the idea that the universe is a construct and
even when we got rid of the idea of the constructor the personal God will
continue to think of the world in terms of a machine in terms a of Newtonian
mechanics and later in terms of what we call quantum mechanics although I found
it rather difficult to understand how quantum
is in any sense mechanics it is much more like organics which is to be a
different concept however that may be it has percolated that you see into the
roots of our common sense that the world is a construct isn't contract and
therefore as one understands the operations of the machine by analysis of
its parts by separating them into their original bits we have bitted the cosmos
and see everything going on in terms of bits bits of information and I found
that this is extremely fruitful in enabling us to control what's happening
after all the whole of Western technology is the result of bidding
let's suppose you know you want to eat a chicken you can't eat the whole chicken
at once you have to bite it you have to reduce it to bits but you don't get a
cut-up fryer out of an egg it doesn't come that way so what has happened is
this look we don't know the origins of all versus maybe go back thousands of
years the way we develop the art of thinking which is essentially calculus
is this the universe as it comes in nature the physical universe is
something like a Rorschach clock it's all Wiggles we who live in cities are
not really used to this because we build everything in straight lines and
rectangles and so on where do you see this sort of thing you know human beings
have been around as they're always kind of straighten things out
but nature itself is clouds as water as the outlines of continents as mountains
is biological existences and all of them wiggle and wiggly things are to human
consciousness a little bit of a nuisance
because we want to figure it out and it is as if therefore some ancient
fishermen one day held up his net and looked at the world through the net he
said my just think of that there I can see the view it's one and that peak of
that mountain is one two three four five six holes across and the base is one two
three four five holes down and I thought it's number C so the lines with latitude
at longitude the lines of celestial and terrestrial latitude and longitude the
whole idea of a matrix of a looking at things through graph paper painted on
printed on cellophane is the basic idea of measurement this is the way we
calculate we break down the wiggliness of the world into comprehensible
countable geometrical units and thereby figure it and construct it in those
terms and this is so successful up to a point that we can of course come to
imagine that this is the way the physical world really is discrete
discontinuous full of points in in fact the mechanism
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