I can welcome everyone. I'm with the amazing Karen, Creighton today
And I've got a real treat for you as we go deep into this live
case study interview with Karen just to work out exactly
Where she started from where she is now and what were her main turning points in order?
for you to get maximum benefit in and some tips and how you can move forward in growing your
Holistic health practice your natural therapy clinic or even your healing and coaching business as well, all right
So what are you carrying great to have you?
Thank you for asking me. It's really cool. I am
Bigger you know that's a big big lift question is matt it is football
Okay, a bit cool thing. Yeah, there is going to be a bit daunting but look o allah. You're the genius
I'm just going to facilitate ask you some general questions
Feel like a you know friendly interrogation and see how much we did is much happier you and at that time yeah
So ever you start by introducing yourself where you are like where you live and and what you do for that mind yes um
My name is Karen Clayton. I live in the beautiful bay of Islands at the top end of New Zealand and I
it's very hard to actually put a name to I do so I sort of call myself a
Natural health practitioner, but I do so much more than that, so I
Work with energy and create energy medicine I create programs
The list is endless so I enable people to access
Their own healing power
Lammott love it because you've got quite the backgrounds
you know as a natural therapist whether it's you know is it along the line of homeopathy as well as a
Myriad of other modalities after a long list that the basic ones are natural nutrition medical herbalism
homeopathy
along with creation of essences I've also been trained in Cologne Kirra gation
Iridology
reflexology various different healing modalities
so there's a
Yeah, I did color puncture. I did legs and that's a different thing awesome awesome
yeah, look I'm sure there are so many therapists, and I've got a
Letter of strings to me by all two to bring you know
even Greater Outcomes
And results for their clients, so there are they're across more modalities from there
Yeah
I think I'm not unique as you say in that fact and I think the reason for me is
So common is we're always looking to improve ourselves
You know by Ourselves we can then pass on that information
And those and those products to help others because that's the whole thing isn't it's about the reason. We're in this
business of healing is
To help facilitate the healing process
Absolutely and and you said it beautifully before as well
So well let me ask you this like we've been around each other for a little while
But officially working together for what four to five months now
Why?
Yeah
Let me ask you this what what were?
What were you facing?
before what problems or obstacles were you facing in the practice your business before you and I started officially working together in the the
Sba program
my biggest challenge
I would say well. There's a couple the first one was financial with cash flow
getting a stroke to sort of like
go with Annie and so we went we were we were always struggling to pay the gST to
to keep everything up to date and
the and
the other thing was is
how to be seen oh
because I know
Like I know like I know that the programs. I have a life changing yes, and
Yet, I seem to have been kicked under someone put it very beautifully under an invisibility cloak
Yeah, and that's what it felt like how do I get through this
invisibility cloak and that was the my
Challenges really when we first met love it
Love attend so you whether you're regardless whether you're a fan of harry potter or not with the invisibility cloak thee
They would like let's say
So the other side of those two
Frustrations or problems that you just mentioned is what you wanted to achieve, so you know if we align?
What's the other side of lack of cash flow or stifled or even being unseen? What is it that you actually?
Desired or what did you want to achieve?
my desire for my
products
services
The money is a wonderful side issue, but it's you know
it's a reality you know the reality is we have to earn money to keep going to keep promoting but I
real desire is to get
My products my services out to as many people as possible
Yes, and in order to do that need to be sane right? Yeah. Yeah, yes, and I wasn't
Young your words well, let's take that one for the moment, and we can address the the cash flow in the money sides second. They
if
if if things kept going the way that they were
What would that have meant for you in business?
Well, I was seriously thinking you know I had several conversations with my lovely supportive husband
about going and getting a job in New World or or going and
and then I very quickly went you know what I'm unemployable, so you know I'm so
Driven this know whether I could that was it was the prospect of right, okay?
What else do we do you know literally what can I do do we look actually has to?
leave
Where we're living now and start all over again
Right that's a that's a big big squeezing reality right there become a big fork in the road, right?
very much, so and
It was basically
Yeah, it was
literally when
We met earlier
This year at your wonderful boot camp
it was literally right, what do we do now you know where to from Here hMM, and
great thing is we got the way -
absolutely
Absolutely, and I'm so glad that simon and yourself we were there because you know that. That's the thing that we
That we both know that when you show up, then you know magic
Happens doesn't it. You know magic certainly happens and and it certainly happened
You know once I decided to go for it
It was all or nothing really you know is there a real all or nothing and I think when you have that
it gives you and
You helped give me real Direction
with where I was going because like so many of
People working in this industry we're very creative uh-huh you can really be unrealistic
and
And you hit the nail on the head when you were talking about distraction
are you running a hobby or are you running a business and
and that really resonated because
to distract myself from my
Reality I used to take myself on too little tension hMM
But now I have a much greater
Direction Path Nola
hogs yeah, and
Now I always ask myself if I get these little
glittery things in the peripheral is this furthering where I'm going or
Is it just literary and I'm much more aware of that?
I'm not that I don't take any notice of the glittery things, but I do I
Couple of that. I love it. Well let me ask you this next one is what three parts of the the sole business academy program
Has created the biggest impact for your business for you in business
Getting the direction know where I was going
The steps now that was so wonderful. I've had mentoring the past
Several mentors, and they've all been great
don't get me wrong, but they're forgiving me the step by step approach to riches is what I need you know because
it's like people expect that you know thing and
Very often we don't know so it's really great. It's having that step by step approach
that
Is very results driven and so so basically right? If this step work? Did it work and you check it?
Yeah, it worked or nothing quite like that then so it's really like is having that and the other third one
Which is that the major one is the support of the group?
you know knowing that there's other people doing different things, but we're all in the same boat together and
We've got to know one another's business is a bit better
And so we can or if someone doesn't fit with our
Business very often there's someone else we can direct them to
Remember them. That's the beauty of it as well and getting to know
Like-Minded souls is really really nice. Yeah, it's inspiring isn't it?
Yeah, so on those three points three great points. You know the first one being direction. You know
If you want to go deeper into that a little bit is that sort of linked to the Chinese star the shiny object syndrome?
Is it more to?
Around you know knowing what works for you? What do you if you don't want unpacking that a little bit more well?
when we do that, we did a
session together when we sort of went through my passions my
You know what I love um
I've really realized that. I just I love my programs and really love my programs and I love my products
But what I found with with developing enlightened hormones
it's actually managed to put all of the 32 years of learning and
Being able to direct it into these lovely individuals like and that really want to help themselves those
that really want to make changes in their lives and
And so and we've made it you know. We're on a on my second course now and
These people are completely change
forever
Yes, yes, okay, and that's mine clang so clearly yes
It is and that's that's the beauty of the the distilling down of all of this experience
You know 30 plus years of experience because you know I remember
Mention having numerous conversations with you and this program and then that program and this idea and that idea and you're brilliant
So many things that you're getting very tired
And you're getting very worn down as well as your your um
Your cash flow because you know you were attracting piecemeal type of people rather than absolute
you know
Niche Within Niche
Specific higher higher paying people weren't you yeah, I was getting more of myself. Matt really
oh, I was attracting people who were exhausted too scattered and
who I
can't say I wasn't committed, but were unable to really focus on what it was they wanted and
so
The great thing is is I can now help those people because I'm much more focused and so consequently
Being as I'm more focused my clients are becoming more focused too. Which is quite interesting. Yes
So it's just going to say it's and hand-in-glove
type of Behavior their absolute look and and and
from
all of this of course
My confidence has grown
My bill to articulate
My programs is growing all the time
It's just real I can't believe that. It's only four or five months more
It's gone very very quickly, but not if you feel me
But it's sort of like yeah step by step, but those steps add up and so yeah
compounding well let's get to the results side of things if if you're happy to Share like the
The three things you've mentioned
You know that the new direction the cell our programs the the step-by-step approach realizing?
What does that meant for your business supposed to inform us financially?
EnergY-Wise
Leverage we owning
financially the
the having the high-end program has
really helped with
cash of Course
So and I think I think it was within the first six weeks that I can't remember, I'd launched my first
program and within
Now you told me would be forward in five days or something and it was six or seven
sorry willa
Come on. You know
It was and so that
in turn made life so much easier and and
The fact is now we're getting people who are paying
Before the next course so my next course probably starting in and put a date to it, but being middle of september
So I'm starting to get inquiries now for the next one because people are now seeing the results of people
from the close group, and so they're going I want what they're having and then
It's a wonderful Knock-on effect and also what happens with that of course is
Not everyone
is
Financially in the position to pay out for the high-end one, but they go right can't afford that one
But I'll go to that one which is so not this on my website
And so that in itself is really helping with the whole
rollover of fining and yeah
Absolute so so really now in in just summing it up difference if I hear you correctly that by focusing
You and then offering a high-end program?
Because you already had the low-end programs or what you deemed as programs there was no high or low
It was just that the high-end program now has created a little bit of
contrast that people say well, I want to reach there, but I need to start here because of finances or my
Physical position or whatever it is and you've given them an ascension curve to work through with you. Yeah, also, I think
There's also people who have gone
Yeah, like what she's saying and I like what it, but I want to try something first
Yeah, and how they go with fast track to help yeah and try that out and and then go I
Like that now. I want to try that that's right. So it's the entree before the main nice man
Yeah, cool, sit exactly, right?
Yeah, hey cool cool and so for me
from a financial perspective is there a figure that has
been produced as a result of the programs are we talking you know the the 20 the 30 or
well if we just look at the first program that I launched within the
six weeks that
more than paid for a year-long mentoring with you know so you know and and then next one it's
A bit like icing on the cake really, so that's double so so far so good, so it
Yes, it's been a really interesting
Look at money. I look at money very very differently now mmM
fear of looking at the Bank account I
Don't have a fear of talking to the bank manager
And I don't have a fear of n around money money doesn't have a hold on me anymore. That's also. That's awesome
Really really good
Because I got cash flow and you've got people put on a payment plan and you've got better quality people paying better quality
payment plans
And so then it's building up, you know
Daily and weekly and fortnightly sort of cash flow rather than waiting for answer months sort of dumps that may not cut it yeah
Yeah, yeah, and sometimes you know
It was like
Really we were struggling at times we had to keep on
paying ourselves personally for
Things that the business should in paintball hMM
Yes
Yes, I'm sure there's a few out there like that. So yeah, we funded this business completely honestly. Yes
That's right. So so. It'd be you know
So you've made that distinction between Hobby and business now the business is
you know as we share a life is an extension of you, but with a business must operate independent of
of you so it yes be
so Clients ultimately
you know are funding the growth of the business and therefore the enjoyment and
Impact that it has upon your own personal life as well
so do you mind mentioning that like how's the results impacted your personal life with Simon yourself and
What it's given me of course is I don't have to do so many hours to
working all the time so so silent summons my husband simon and I we
we spend more time together and
So consequently it always improves the relationship which we spend time together quality no rush
And what could I do now is I?
Because I have clients booked it about make people booked in whereas
They used to whenever anyone phoned I used to pick up the phone immediately no matter. What time nice it was
but now I have strict what I finish work here and
That's it. You know and so it's given me boundaries as well
I feel like I can have boundaries and I do I didn't rehab them before
Nice now. I see. So really you're not the slave to the next dollar like I have to take the clients
Or because we need the cash and now it's okay now the business operates on my terms. Yeah
absolute freedom really met because although
I'm always going to work the other day call it work
and it's my passion so but even
Though it's your passion. I believe you still have took time away from it Mm-hmm
We make sure that we do now and we make sure we because I work from home, so
we go away at least once a month hello, and
For a long weekend or or a week or whatever and and now we're able to do that
and that makes a big difference to the whole
Wandering of everything yeah
Lovers lovers, you know it comes back to that that impact freedom and lifestyle which is
What we're here to create for others, but most importantly to experience for the self as a practitioner or a business owner
Yeah, and of course
I'm always telling people you need to take time out and you need to have boundaries and you need to have more than that and
Now I'm able to actually walk. Why talk
They love it. That's so cool. So cool. So let's dial back a little bit and let's say
Before we started officially working together
What objection or objections may have been lingering around in?
Helping in in stopping you from making the decision to step forward and jump in the program
um
I'm trying to think I think it was just I
Wanted to when we spent the weekend. I just wanted to see how
we interacted because having jumped on board with business mentors and things before and
I've just gone on blind Faith uh-huh and
It hasn't always worked out how I?
envisage it would and but also I've had I've had beautiful people in my
tribe says he who have been working with you and so men and
And it was just after spending a weekend with you, and then as well and the group
It was just right just going to try to do this it's it's trust was was that one of the things like you
Like it is it is it too good to be true, or is it is there alignment? Yeah?
You know it did deer congruence yes, I think it's great to do the weekends
you know the the boot camps because
you get the feeling of the whole group and
we learn such a lot on those those weekends and
I've only been on two of them so far
and they're completely different to one another and so that's the beauty of it yeah and so and
I having met you before that course I knew that we had an
Energetic alignment, which I felt was great
Good
I've been burned a bit before so and so that's why I was just a bit reticent. That was the only reason too many. Yeah
Good yes, yeah, 100% so there was a bit of cautiousness. There was like is this is this guy going to you know?
live up to
It walk is talk live up to the promises does he have our back
And I remember we had that conversation very early on so yeah, awesome
What would you say is one of the favorite parts of the soul business academy? What would you say that is for you?
my favorite
so many really
Hmm, I think
My favorite bit is the fact that we are gaining freedom. You know
Yes, good. Hence the little chuckle. Yeah
But but there's so many parts of it that are so good
This very difficult to differentiate
You know like saying about the group aspect
You know how that really helps and all of those things it really helps that it's sort of like
It's really difficult to go right. That's the one thing but
But also the other thing is is I can really see now a very clear direction
of where I'm
Mm-Hmm, and no one's going to stop me. So they know absolutely there's another song in there. No one's going to stop me now
That's fantastic
Ain't no stopping me now. Yes
absolutely absolutely well you you really are as
in as much time as we've been working together a
A
Pinnacle star you well you are that that?
That leader that's really stepping forward and putting you know traction rubber to the road getting stuff done
Getting in front of people and and that's you know to your credit
Absolutely you know by by backing yourself in that process - yeah, and I really appreciate thank you for that
But um I wouldn't have done if I hadn't been kicked at the backside a few times
So you know it's always good to someone
Pushing keep track well in the last possible way of committing well, let's get straight to you know
You've shared so many wonderful things
I'm just super super impressed with how far you've come in such a short period of time it does not surprise me it
Was never going to surprise me because I just knew that the right people would show up and I knew that you had
what it took whatever what it takes to step forward and
make all of these things happen so in saying that
Who do you who do you feel the this this program is best suited to and why?
Cool anyone who wants to really?
Start showing up
It's got something that they know like they know like they know that people need
And no one realizes it yet
You know it's like insured to me, I know
that people need what I've got to offer and
I think if you have that need in you and the passion then
it's
imperative that you have someone to help you along the way to
Push you along or walk alongside you really yeah
That's it is until working alongside and giving a shove
pickering and then
Remain then with with with it with the steps it's Lava thought
We could go it with the greatest love with and with the steps to follow as you've said and those sort of things as well
Because you know you're you're you're one of several lamb
I would say you know natural therapists, but there's you know the healers and coaches and and budding entrepreneurs, and you know in
Very very big heart of people, but those that quite often find it a little stifling, too
You know first realize that they do have a hobby and then to
Make sense of their drive to create a business out of it, so I love what you've said yeah, yeah
I think one of the things
Which I know I've struggled with over the years and hence. I was in the division. I was in position of is
struggling to put a value on
What we do a huge huge?
And you know because in theory you know there's been a perception that healers should be
Not well paid should have should be like the mother teresa. You know that's of imagery. Yeah
Poverty
I've never believed that I
Mentally I've never believed that but I think somewhere was
Struggling to charge for people's health and I think
That's where and I think maybe the the health services and things that within the western world especially like New zealand
Australia the uk Will come from
Free health care in theory no such thing
Yeah, and it's like well. I don't get charged with here. Why should I tell you and why should I?
mmm
But now things are changing of course
it's
realizing that although
Another thing for me was I'm not a medical doctor. Oh
But I've got a lot of knowledge that I've accumulated my playmobil I
Don't need to be a doctor. You know no, I can help
You know so that's a lot of lots of little gems that I've come up with
This moment absolutely brilliant. So the level of confidence and everything else from there, and you really are a way shot
You really are and that's the thing that
Is just totally impressive and standout?
about you that you know all this genius that you know you bring it into one crystallized version of of
You know your passion as you said earlier, and you can actually move you can move mountains. You can impact so many lives and
You know bring about a huge sense of real sense of freedom?
which year now just
Starting to taste that that freedom was weekend away, and cash flow on all the list yeah
And it's just that it's not necessarily the weekends away in the cash flow, but it's that it's like a weight lifted
Hmm. Yes, it's like ah can breathe again
Yeah, yeah, you really is and I thought I like this the way you syst met about
Impacting others, and I just said look for a small
Experience that I had this week
With one of my enlightened hormones groups and she was saying that
The program she's gone has not only impacted felt
But her husband and their children and their children's children
Love it. Just
One person, so you know one person is when makes a big influence. Oh, yes it is. That's that's the deal
That's the deal your first person in business as an example
You'll first say yes, your first first paying client leads the way to so much transformation. It's huge
Fascinating it love it. I absolutely love what we've shared
So those of you that are watching this if you would like to know how the sol business academy can help you grow your business
Start your business launch your business move from passion and move from Hobby rather to business and to really
Stand out and experience that sense of impact meaning and freedom in your life, then somewhere on this page
you'll find a link I'd love to you to click that button or click that link and look in for a
complimentary consultation with me
We will deep dive into exactly what's holding back where you are right now, and some very simple steps moving forward
To get you on the right plan and the right model of operation
So thank you Karen for your time
Absolutely love doing these things with you as we can bounce ideas off forever, but it's deadly
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. See you see and
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