Do you feel you live under occupation?
Amer Rahat
No
Why?
That's what I think
That's my opinion
I can't hear you
I think that, what do you want me to say
I am a citizen here like anyone else
Do you think you live under occupation?
Radna Taibe (filmed in Nablus)
Yes
Yes, I do because I don't do everything that I want
Like what? What can't she do?
If I wanted to go to Arab countries I can't
because there is no peace between them Israel and the Arab countries
That's not because of occupation
because
because there is no peace
and he (her husband) said "he's talking politically"
For example, there are many houses
that are under threat of demolition
Because they (Israeli authorities) are saying these homes
were built without a permit
Do you feel you live under occupation?
Amer Furadis
Sometimes
How?
That's the answer
Ok but why?
Why? Because with the Nation State law that came up now
it really creates discrimination
it really creates distinctions between citizens
Is that occupation or simply discrimination?
It is gradual occupation
So you think things will just get more and more worse?
Of course, this is only the beginning
that is how all the facist governments started
They started like that
slowly they change the constitution change the laws
over the years
they bypass the minorities
and then they discriminate against them
Is there another example you can give?
Let's say... I really hope the Nation State law won't last
that's why I am asking
so is there something else?
Of course
Give me another example
For example
Kosher foods
Kosher foods?
I am a cook
and when they changed owners and made the place Kosher Mahadrin
so they fired me because I am a non Jew
I am not permitted to light fires
Where was this?
A restaurant in Zichron Yaakov
Really? - Yes
Wow
Yes, I will give you the most direct answers
(can't hear her)
No, it has nothing to do with the army
For the army, I am also allowed to serve, I have no problem with that
everyone does what he wants
but we are talking about...
(I can't hear what she is saying)
What did she say?
She claims, she says
that some times you go look for work in something
and they ask you if you served in the army or didn't serve
So you think that because you didn't serve in the army...
Yes, they prefer those that served in the army
Maria Nazareth (filmed in Nablus)
Yes
Sometimes
Like when I
interact with the Jewish people
I will feel like something is wrong in the air
but I act with them normally
Do you have any Jewish friends?
No
Not really
I talk to people in the Jewish language
in Hebrew
I have to because I live there
so I have to know the language
so I can live normally
and do my chores and all that
So what else? When you say you feel you live under occupation
what else could it be?
In politics, when I vote
there are no seats
Parliament
What?
Parliament
Yes, yes
There is no Arab seats
There are (Arab) parties
you just don't like them
We are a small community
but that's not because we are a little community
or our numbers are small
It's because there are many Jews who come from outside
the country
They weren't born here
They are Russians, Moldavians
Ukrainians
When you add more Jewish people, we become smaller
But I have to live with it
I don't know
I don't have anything in my mind
on a daily basis
that I will think that there are some differences between us
between Jewish people and Arabs
right now I don't have anything on my mind
but there is something you feel it
You feel it but I can't just tell you
because it's the little details
Do you think you live under occupation?
Naill Arrara
That is a very complicated and complex question
Of course
It is not thought of as occupation
it is more of an occupation, not of land
but an occupation connected to
not acknowledging the fact
that we (Arab Israelis) exist here for years
many years
and they need to acknowledge our population...
How can the Jews acknowledge? How can the state acknowledge?
You
First of all
last year
the Nation State law
that says
that Arabs are second class
Jews are first class
and from there it starts
before that it is history
everything related to acknowledgement...
Give me an example of something they can do
I think this university (Haifa University) is a good place for dialogue
for discussions between Arabs and Jews
to bring people together
to improve trust
There is a crisis of trust
between Arabs and Jews
Like there is a crisis between secular and religious
it is the same I think
So to talk about it
to find solutions
To find a solution? - Yes
Like you are talking to me now
that's the solution to speak
If we sit and talk
solve all the problems
There is no problem that can't be solved
there is only trust
There are prejudices
like "it is impossible to speak with Arabs"
"Arabs are second class"
All those things we need to change
so as you are talking to me now
you certainly identify
a person that is thoughtful
so it is the same thing
If you sit across from "the other"
you discover other things with him
and awareness that needs to be changed
Do you live under occupation?
Yes
Where do you live?
Nahariya
You are Muslim No one can see that
Yes
Why do you think you live under occupation?
You come back here Mr. Big Mouth (her friend who said he would speak)
You study at Haifa University - I feel a difference
You study at Haifa University - Yes, of course
Inside the borders of the university
you can see the difference
Like what? Give me an example
At the bus station
for example - What do you mean?
I remember when I used the buses
there were
How can I say that?
Do people put you into two separate lines? What do you mean?
Yes
There are two separate lines? One for Arabs and one for Jews?
No, no
In the bus stations
the security (guard)
just
let's me see the difference
between the Arabs and the Jews
I don't understand
Who says what? You have to give me an example
Because I have never seen anything like that
I just forgot the word
Hebrew?
They checked me (security check) and they didn't check the Jews
They checked me
They checked me
I am saying, I am a Jew and I am checked
After you get off the bus
Ah
at the bus stop
So someone stops you
I thought you meant the entrance to the university
No, not the security check (at the entrance to all buildings)
At the bus stop
Who does this? The police? I don't understand
No, a guard
He checks me but didn't check others
Because of the fact that I wear a hijab and others don't
Ok
That's a good example
So why is that occupation?
It's definitely
bigotry, I would say racism
but there is no race but you know what I mean
It's racism
But how is that occupation?
You feel you are not a citizen
they check you but don't check others
So you don't feel equal
I don't feel I belong
Do you live under occupation?
Sharihan Beer al Mashash (unrecognized village)
I don't think so
We live in Israel
Arabs and Jews together
I don't face
the same situation like in the West Bank
honestly
Maybe in the West Bank
West Bank
there is occupation
I can see that in the news
But in the place where I live
You live in what area?
The Negev? - Yes, the Negev
You are Bedouin? - Yes, I am a Bedouin
Raneen Majd al Krum
Do you feel you live under occupation?
Yes
In Israel - Yes
As a citizen? - Yes
With full rights? - Yes
Why?
Because I am an Arab
So what's wrong with that? Excuse me, what racism?
No, it's not bad - I was making a joke
You have a constant feeling
that you are under occupation
It's true that we have lots of rights
but there are also many things that
that we are not indirectly entitled to
Like what?
Give an example
For example
in academic education
Sometimes Arabs have a harder time getting far
It is something that is known
Actually no. I work at Tel Aviv University
and they accept many from the Arab populations (higher than their proportion in the population)
The question is for what purpose?
You can bring lab rats
and you can bring in those that do the experiment
It depends on many things what I am saying
it is not something permanent
but it is a subject that...
So you as Arabs say among yourselves
that these are the issues
It is something discussed between students
Do you study? - Yes
Where? - At ORT Braude
An engineering college
Engineering? Nice
Go on - That's it
But besides that, everything is good
if you are
If you are a good person everything is okay
It doesn't matter if you have rights or you don't have rights
if you are a good person with good will, everything will be...
I think it matters
I think it matters that people feel attached
feel equal - Yes
On the other hand, it's politics
Connected question
What would make you feel
that you are fully Israel?
That's a really big question
I think it is 50
or 60 years old
or maybe more
You mean from 1948? - Yes
I don't think that is a question that I am capable of answering
You are a Jerusalem resident
do you feel you live under occupation?
Yes
You have a blue (Israeli) ID
you have the same rights as a Jew that lives in Jerusalem
to qualify
The whole image that we have the same privileges
the same...
First of all, I have lived here all my life
I can see the differences
for example, if I want to go from A to B
it would be much more difficult for me
I am not just seeing it, I am feeling it
when I compare it to other Israeli people
We are talking about two different locations not areas A and B (West Bank)
Yes, locations
Give me an example of a location where it is more difficult and why
A location for example
yesterday we had Yom Kippur
so basically
in order to go home
I had to take a 30 minute road
instead of a 5 minute road
Where is home?
I live near the old city
If I want to finish my job and go back home
basically all the main roads are closed (to prevent driving in religious areas)
so I have to take a big detour
if you go to the Israeli places there would be (note, roads are closed to all)
That is one day a year
Ok, I will give you another example
For example, I have national insurance
What is it called in English?
If I want to go to my national insurance (office)
just make sure that both have the same IDs
The main difference is
when I go to the national insurance (office)
I have to stand in line for more than 40 minutes
the whole building is an old building
We only have two windows (clerks)
All those people only have two lines
If you go to the national insurance (office) over here (West Jerusalem)
you will find more than 20 clerks
Since you go to the "Jewish"...
Not Jewish
National insurance in East Jerusalem is for people who live in Jerusalem
without Israeli citzenship
I have the same ID
but I don't have the citizenship
So I have to go over there
and you see a lot of troubles
you see less workers
less...
From the perspective of security
you'll see
not a good attitude
towards the people over there
but over here, you will get "I apologize", "sorry for..."
Are you allowed to go to the other... - No
Not allowed
Because you are not a citizen
Because I don't have the passport
So you need to get citizenship - Exactly
If you were a Palestinian who got citizenship
would you be allowed to go to... - Yes
But for me, I live here all my life
I am not allowed to get...
So why not get citizenship?
I am not allowed to get citizenship - Of course you are allowed
You are allowed
I quote
I am "allowed" as a matter of law
but when you apply for the application
you'll find
after many years
your application would be the same probably
Another perspective
(to a religious Jewish friend of mine) I apologize, I am saying what I want to say
Of course
Go for it
When you go to a Palestinian district
an Arab district in Jerusalem
You have a lot of problems in
houses
If you want to take an application to build a house
you will be asking for years
In the Jewish areas, you will never see
a court order
to demolish the house
demolish the house
every once in a while you will see
That's true - you will see demolishing houses
Another one
Traffic
Parking tickets
You will never see in a Jewish area
a police officer will stop you
saying "hello, I just want to make sure everything is okay"
He will probably stop you if you go through a red light
if you cross something else
but in my area
there is always a police officer
just waiting for someone
to spend his time on it
Ok, "hello officer"
"I have insurance"
If it's okay
he will start to search for something in order to
give you any sort of ticket
and that's true
What makes it even worse
is that they are always over there
What else?
I can speak a lot about this
You just feel it
You feel it everywhere
But is that occupation
or is that racism?
Discrimination
It's discrimination
due to the occupation
Probably if you go to other...
let's say about Jewish people probably
in other countries, you won't see the same thing
It's a totally different thing
But when you go...
due to the occupation
people are a little brainwashed
because they go to the military 16, 17, 18 years old
So when you go there
they start brainwashing
in order to make this...
And some people like it
Some people try to fight it
But you can see it you can feel it everywhere
If you go to the Central Bus Station
I go with my mother my mother wears a scharf (hijab)
they will leave all the people and search your mother
because you are special
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