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that is true like it write it down like yes right
answer so we read a book weird together at the same time yep
I listen to it cuz that's what I do I listen to the audiobook Megan read read
the actual book and we want to talk about it yeah and this is something
we've both avoided for quite some time is reading this book because talking
about money and looking into like your actual beliefs about money is fucking
hard it just is like it can be really uncomfortable it makes you itchy like
right now today we're talking about the book you are a badass with making money
by Jensen cero and we both have read the you are a bad ass book and loved yes I
love that was like one of my biggest breakthroughs for like personal
development and stuff but she wrote a book about money which ran said that we
both either had the book or got it from the library like a few times and really
it's like not the time for ya and funny enough we started reading it around tax
time yeah like that was intense
yeah to bring up a lot but is it sort of a like just taxis and you feel like
nothing but regret and it's insane how much negative emotion you have on money
yeah and above the energy behind it and then like reading this book just getting
like a few little takeaways and then actually like doing all the journaling
exercises and writing down your thoughts about money how you realize how deep
your mindset is yeah I still have to do I still have to actually do all the like
writing assignments but for me like that's gonna be my next step with the
book I actually am going to purchase the book yeah so that I can go through and
do the writing assignments because I think that's so important I'm finding
that in anything I do like the actual integration of what you read into your
life you need to sit down and like apply it to your life so yeah just not just
reading it and go yeah that makes sense and then putting the book down and
carrying on with your life which is so oftentimes what I do with so many books
is I'm like in it when I'm reading it it's like yes this is so good this is so
speaking to me and then you have the book down and you haven't integrated any
of that into your own life and I think that more people that are writing these
types of books now are starting to understand that and I'm finding that
like more books now have so many writing prompts in that do you find that now
like yeah well it seems like any book that we've read like lately warrior God
is yeah yeah and even the book I just read about eating
light of the moon and yeah so many books have like these you know like stop here
sit down write this out as it applies to your own
life and I think that does such an important step not to skip and one that
I skip so often no I didn't do and to be fair like I was listening to the
audiobook so a lot of times it was when I was driving or doing something where I
couldn't write but I definitely like know that I need to go and purchase the
book and sit down and like write it in my calendar to make appointments with
myself to go through this because for me like I already knew I have a major
avoidance with money because I have underlying beliefs and fears and major
negative emotions around it and so my coping mechanism with money is just to
completely pretend like I don't need to do anything with it other than spend it
mindlessly or just not like out of sight out of mind kind of thing
yeah and that doesn't work very well in case you're not a really great tactic if
you want to get more of it if you want to do not worry about it
it's not that great so yeah this this book really makes you take a hard look
at like what you actually think about money and why you're in the situation
that you're in with money and what to do about going about changing your mindset
towards my doing this scarcity mindset right like one of the Bundys yeah yeah
what do you what was what do you feel like your biggest fear is with money um
my biggest fear with money comes back to I think what where a lot of my fear
stems from with things is I feel like not smart enough to if I had money or if
I have to deal with it or make decisions surrounding it that I'm I'm not smart
enough or capable enough to make the right decisions or good decisions to
impact it in a positive way so then again like my coping mechanism is just
to be like nope Yeah right what about you I um I think my biggest fear about
being successful or wealthy or like uses the word rich a lot and even how like I
don't even like saying that word rich but like Howard's
if I were to be wealthy that it would change all the relationship yeah and I
fear I fear losing my relationships because of money right yeah but I like
how I think the biggest thing that I got out of that is like a like truly
recognizing that and like really naming it being like if I'm wealthy
I could lose everybody I know yeah like that's like like what are the chances of
that and I'm like who even care it like
whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen but then how after naming that she said
it's like what are all the amazing things you could do with money if you
were wealthy right and it's like living you're like truly best life in the way
that you want you with that freedom to do so and to be able to like truly give
they're like what would you just like what would you do with your money if you
had like a complete abundance of it and like you didn't have to worry about it
or yeah Yeah right like all the things you want to do in life is how much more
you could really give to have if you had that wealth and that money I think the
big thing to is thinking of monies and energy right and how that's like an
energy exchange and like the vibration like I don't have to like raise your
vibration to the vibration of money and if you have negative thoughts and
feelings towards money you have a really low vibration and if it is an energy
exchange you're not going to be attracting that into your life you're
going to be telling it because you think so
negatively about money and that was a big eye-opener for me because I don't
like thinking about what money won so I think somewhere in the book she talked
about like if you treated your friends like you treated money or like they
wouldn't be sticking around because I completely ignore money I talk badly
about it I like have complete anxiety around it and act awkward as fuck yeah
or I just said get rid of it as fast it's possible and I'm like mindless with
it or I I don't take care of it I don't take time with it to understand it to
get to know it to communicate with it and it would like no wonder it doesn't
like to hang around me right like and I thought that that was a really
interesting way of framing that in a way that you can really think about like I
know a lot of people might hear that and be like that's just like crazy talk like
what the hell are you talking about but it's true it's true because it's like if
you like if you give yourself permission to want money and know that it's okay to
want money and to have a comfortable life and to do and have the things that
you want to do to be able to step into your power and live your purpose on this
earth and just live the best way that you can you're definitely gonna have to
change your thoughts and your vibration and your energy in order to match that
of abundance and manifesting and drawing that energy to you yeah maybe having
that grata right I like how you talked like how she talked in like how you
brought that point up about it being like your friend cuz you think about
like when you find money on the ground it's like bumping into a friend you
haven't seen in times I owe
like hugging a kiss and then like you take it with you in like how when you
have that and like like even just saying that feels better
so I November 2 is reading the book called the magic was written by the same
author that wrote the secret and just having that like gratitude for
everything in life including money yeah and how like every time you receive
money to be like thank you thank you thank you but like really mean it and be
like this is amazing that like you're being paid for something and how
grateful I am to be able to have the money to pay for things that allow me to
do this and allow me to go here and allow me to give this to somebody else
right how that gratitude is so key and I think that's like the book just like
really reinforces having gratitude for money yeah yeah yeah so it's so
challenging to look at something that makes us so uncomfortable because I
think so many of us are not equipped or taught or encouraged to have a healthy
and positive relationship with money because if you think about it you
inherit your family or the environment you're in beliefs about money and if
you're living in a place of scarcity or where things are really tight or you
know you were taught certain things about money or nobody talked about money
at all yeah you know and then all of a sudden you become an adult and you get
your first credit card or you you know like right you just have no idea what
you're doing and then when it if you do develop habits that aren't so healthy
with it and you get yourself into a little bit of debt then the negative
feelings start to happen of that like panic or that weight holding you down or
just like that loss of control or fear and yeah I think like if we as
society could start opening up and talking more about money in how to have
a healthy relationship with it and that you don't have to be afraid of it you
don't have to hate it you don't have to like if you do get it or want it that
doesn't make you a greedy or bad horrible person totally right because
that's like that's the other thing is like for me like I've always thought
like money isn't everything like you shouldn't be thinking about like how
much you can make and it always makes me feel guilty or dirty or wrong for
thinking about how I can make money and how I can get more money and I always
end up feeling like this shame or guilt like oh man I'm so like that's that must
mean that I don't care about people or I don't you know and that's not that's
just not true but it's a belief I hold and so it's
like it's like reframing your mindset around what that all means and just
opening it up for discussion and actually actually examining those
thoughts and beliefs and questioning whether or not those are true for you
yeah right but she does like all the journaling prompts yeah right like being
like no like dig into this like where is this really coming from and if you were
wealthy how would you be able to live your life and what does like your ideal
day look like but then like listing your ideal day and then being like okay like
how much money do you need for that and what can you do for that
and yeah I think that that was a big takeaway for me too is realizing that I
can still be humble and be wealthy at the same time yeah that I don't feel
like this pores and go mom and living in a one-bedroom apartment there are two
kids yeah well in the other part to that I really liked about the book cuz
there's so much stuff out there right now about manifesting and just changing
your mindset and just if you think positive and then everything's gonna be
great and abundance will just flow to you but the thing I love about Jensen
chero is she's like fuck no you have to work
really fucking hard yeah you have to take risk
you have to take action and you have to work and you can't expect things to be
handed to you you have to like you have to hustle and you have to work for what
you get but you have to be smart about it
and positive and like yeah I'd have that abundance mindset but you have to have
the action and be able to take the risks and have faith that's really I think
that it's gonna work out and that the universe is working in your favor and
that if you just take the leap and believe in yourself and trust that
things are gonna work out the way that they're supposed to as long as you're
still backing it up with that solid action and it'll come because you can't
just sit back and think about money and think all lovey-dovey thoughts about it
and then all the sudden your bank accounts gonna be full like that's just
not how it works but I liked that part about the book - is it wasn't like
painting this flowery picture that is giving people false hope about shortcuts
- yeah wealth and success or whatever and they just like had like you said
it's like that faith word keeps coming up to that it's like just knowing that
like if you can check in with your gut and knowing that like whatever big risky
you're gonna take yeah that what's gonna happen is supposed to happen and just
really believing and that like that's where like the abundance comes through
and how she like hopped on a plane and went to somebody's house and asked for
like $40,000 to pay for like an executive coach for her to uplevel her
life like what a huge risk like if that didn't work out she's paying that woman
back there like ever yeah well in which you would like no I know that this is
what I need to do and I get she just knew when you are in touch with your
intuition and really start to listen to it and let it guide you that it can
really lead you down incredible pass regardless like she didn't know what the
outcome was gonna be she just went one step forward and typing off and I think
- like understanding that failure is inevitably gonna be a part of the
process - yeah oh yeah knowing that like with any risk there
comes those failures or like those opportunities again to like reframe it
as finding the lesson and understanding that like each failure is designed to be
a gift to give you something to go the next step right so many people see
failure and the like the one time failure and it's like well this wasn't
meant to be yeah and then they give up whereas if you would have just taken
that lesson and then applied it and move forward in a new way that could have
been the thing that took you to that next level and actually made it a
success or the next thing after that right so it's again like yeah that's
strengthening that faith muscle which is so hard to do because you're you're
either living in faith or you're living in fear and abundance and a higher
vibration and the flow of money and all of those things are going to be in the
faith side of things and the scarcity and lack and you know failure and all of
those things are gonna be on that fear side right like for sure yeah it's just
very your big sting but of course like it's not easy we all like our brains are
wired to respond to things were fearful of and to keep us safe and protect us
and to make safe moves so that we can survive you know I think that's why did
you practice right takes like such hard work yeah nope yeah I think negatively
about money maybe stabbing myself and being like no cock-blocking good yeah
totally that's a good thing and in putting money into some things and I
think too it's like her she really made me realize that when you invest in
yourself it's like one of those things it's like you know it but you don't
really like know it like feel it and know it that it's like when you invest
in yourself everything that comes back is like 10 yeah and you really believe
that you're worthy of that and checking your gut that this is the
next up and what you need to do and it's so hard to do that so hard like right
now for Megan and I with kindred like this is our baby and this is what we
want to do and we love it so much and we need to take a look at like what we're
doing and we've chosen to invest in ourselves so that we can go to that next
level but when you're in a position where like let's be honest you're not
making a whole lot of money never bringing very much in at all and you
have to go in and like invest more obably a large amount of money in order
to invest in yourself to reap those benefits and go to that next level it is
so scary because there's a lot of stuff at risk and time and it yeah it's safer
to just not do that but then you never know what could have happened if you
don't take that risk and I think - you're like the thing of it is that so
that I'm starting to understand and part of me still is like oh my gosh I can't
believe you think that now and that so crazy is it's like there's always gonna
be a way to make money yeah there's like if you like like I don't get me wrong
like people fall on really hard times and bad things happen and and it can put
you in a really bad situation but like it's never hopeless and you can start
over and there's you know like I feel like what's the point of living your
life if you just stay in this like one status quo of safety and but you're not
evolving or moving forward or tapping into what you're here to do and in order
to do that you have to get uncomfortable you have to do scary things you have to
take risks you have to take hits and fail and learn and grow
and I would rather live my life that way and mess up and have to learn hard
lessons and you know then I feel like that's actually living though mhm
like if you were to stay and I'm like safespot all the time that's not living
survive yeah exactly do that there's no there is no failure right there
redirection and there's growth lessons like like lessons and new opportunities
and anything that is perceived as like a failure is it's just like a constant
redirection into like your true path agreed agreed
so like I don't know I think honestly I think everybody should read this book
mm-hmm because just to even come face to face with your own beliefs about money
because guaranteed on a day-to-day basis you don't like it's a subconscious thing
and you're on that like autopilot but any opportunity we have to sit back in
that observer seats got to take stock and really be present and look at how
the beliefs that are you know subconsciously driving our actions and
decisions and the things that we do in life checking in with ourselves to take
stock if those things are really true anymore and if we need to let some of
those beliefs go and adopt new ones or try new ones on for size because if
you're not doing that then you wake up five years later in a life that you like
built that you made decisions that you were an active participant and then
you're like how did I get here this isn't what I want right and so many
people have those moments like I pretty much think like every romantic comedy or
like be out there is based off of that moment
where you wake up and like this is not the life that I want anymore how did
that happen you know and we're so conditioned to it I remember like when I
was getting when it first got like my job and it was like one of those steps
to like be ready to like separate and ask for a divorce and it's like I to get
my own bank account said and had my own bank account for forever my bank that I
had a joint mortgage joint account joint credit cards with wouldn't give me my
own account and I had to go to a different thing I had to go to three
different banks before I got a bank account and they had they asked me for
my marriage certificate remembering that open account and I remember being and
even now it's just like fucking infuriates me that I have to have
somebody else's validation that I own my own money and I can do what I want I
know what I would want to do with it and then even separating selling the
house paying off all the debt being completely responsible like completely
responsible for my own household for everything in it and realizing that I
make ends meet all the time realizing how much is my money story didn't come
from me at all and how I was conditioned into thinking that I was the spender and
bad with money and that like you should be hoarding it but like spending it on
this and like just oh it's just it was so nice to have such a fresh start and
completely re-evaluate how I think about a bit like seeing logistical ease to how
I wasn't bad with money even though you thought that you were but how often so
many people aren't even given the opportunity to find that out for
themselves and I was thinking that was like kids with allowance like I wasn't
given an allowance as a kid and I'd spend my entire 20s learning money
management where they continued paying off for like my thirties and like I just
finished paying off like thousands of dollars a day thousand and learning that
and then how like I said before about how it's so
conditioned in your family story that it's like just because I am the
stereotypical single mom it's like that struggle story right that it's like you
can never get ahead and being able to like flip that on my kids and be like no
like we're okay we work hard at different things and enable us to do
this and if we work hard and focus on this and we'll be able to do that and
it's not like oh it's like we can't afford that right now even though we can
but it's like you know like just flipping the perspective of it like
giving your kids and even yourself permission to figure out what your own
money story is yourself and it's like even with doing like their finances with
kindred right that it's like being able to be like no like let's really dig in
and be like what is this and can I do this and what are we gonna spend the
money on like we have complete responsibility for that and how we are
very rarely given the opportunity for that ah well yeah power yeah yeah
it just like infuriates me on so many levels but at the same time like that
it's like anchor like drives me forward to like want more and do more yeah I got
to read look it's like I remember texting you being like we need a coach
yeah like we this outside perspective to be like know like what do you want
what's gonna make you money like that is not a bad thing how do you serve your
people how do you serve your people on different levels how is that coming back
to you and I love I love the idea that she has about giving money away for like
21 days yeah oh I'm so glad I remember that yeah so we're gonna do this on
Instagram and we're totally like insta story attics me that if you couldn't
tell ye-yeah Instagram account for 21 days Ryan and I are going to give and
leave money places and we're gonna have all these people following us around no
waiting
my favorite books at a bookstore and like you think - it's like even just
finding like the loonie and the shopping cart like how like the back yeah you're
like you feel about my all the time yeah yeah so again it's just like that
practice component of and that's the abundant like such Akita abundance is
being able to give as well as to receive knowing that your is like worthy of
receiving it but also that you're worthy of giving it yeah so if you guys want to
follow along with us yeah Graham you can follow us on Instagram at kindred Yug
and if you want to participate with us that would get more - I guess we kind of
have to think of a hashtag yeah well think of one and you'll find it on
Instagram I think it's so good I've been leaving like it's so weird with um reiki
I've never been in a job that I've received like tips before and like I
don't know what to do with this like extra money so I've been putting in a
jar I'm like that's totally gonna be like my giving me the giving jar the
abundance of money so good yeah to be interesting and like a good way to be
creative yeah and yes it's also a great way to feel good too because even just
the thought behind like thinking about that person that will find that money
and how that will make their day or like how that will make them feel is yeah
just like how can you not feel good when you do stuff like that right so it'll be
good what are we reading right now oh yeah what are you reading you know but
this book be together we are so good
with Nick oh no you're breaking up
and what else oh another book do you have on the go
um well right I actually have quite a few um if you saw my library hall not
too long ago I have quite a few going on I'm reading rise sister rise and I'm
also reading a book called fall that's very very interesting and I'm reading a
couple of books on autism and reading just a few things right now it's like
six beside you yeah just a few things I also started this book the anatomy of
the spear yeah you know like when you find books that you just feel are like
written like just for you or like when those books find you yep yeah that's
definitely gonna have to be on our list to do a podcast about for sure yes we'll
be podcasting forever with all the books yeah well you'll you guys need to keep
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