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- What's up, guys?
Welcome back to my channel.
It's your girl Nattie Boss, registered dietitian,
fitness coach, and lifestyle coach at BodyByBoss.com.
Today we're doing something fun and different
on my channel, and I'm bringing along
one of my colleagues, Jim Schultz,
and we're gonna do a little collab here.
We kind of crossed paths doing a program together,
and we found we had a lot of similar
fitness backgrounds and beliefs and stuff,
so wanted to kind of do a collab
and kind of share our knowledge, expertise,
experience with fat loss, because it's a question
that both of our viewers get a lot of, right Jim?
Yeah, so-
- That's exactly right, Natty, yeah.
- Yeah, so, we figured why not kind of bring both
of our two worlds together and just kind of have
a discussion on what we think some
of our top tips for fat loss have been,
and maybe what works for me doesn't necessarily work
for him, but because of the different backgrounds
it's always nice to get those different perspectives.
So, thanks Jim for being on here.
Why don't we first and foremost,
before we get on here, and kind of dive
into the discussion, let's hear
a little bit about your background
and how you got started with fitness.
- Absolutely.
Thanks, Natty, thank you so much for having on, by the way.
It was exciting to meet you and get to know
a little bit more about you and what you're trying to do.
And I'm really excited about the content
we've got going on tonight.
So, my company, my brand, is F Cubed.
Fitness, finance, and faith.
So, I combine kind of the three things
that have really kind of governed my life
for as long as I can remember.
And from a fitness standpoint, when I was growing up
I was always a really big, overweight kid.
I was made fun of, I was picked on,
I was laughed at, I was all those things.
And then when I graduated high school
I discovered competitive natural bodybuilding,
and I've been a bodybuilder ever since.
And so, fat loss for me, it's been a long, hard journey
as I know you can relate to, yourself.
And so, I'm excited about what we can share
with your viewers and my viewers here tonight.
And yeah, man, that's pretty much it.
- Awesome!
So, without further ado, we are gonna get right into it.
But, just so you guys know, make sure
you're tuning in for the next few weeks,
because we're gonna break this series up
into three different videos, just so you guys
can really engage with the conversation
and understand each of the topics,
because a lot of these topics can be
really convoluted, so much information,
so much to talk about, so we don't want you
to kind of lose track of all of the different things.
So, if we break it up, I think it'll be easier
for you to really understand.
If you have any particular questions
about this particular tip that we talk about tonight,
then you can always put that in the comment section below.
You can message Jim, you can message me.
If there's anything particular about either
of our journeys or anything that we said,
we would love, love, love to help you.
I'm sure he would love to help you, as well.
- Definitely, be happy to.
- Awesome, so the first tip that we wanted to talk about,
which, if you follow me on Instagram
or any of my videos on YouTube so far,
I'm a really huge fan of High Intensity Interval Training,
which is called HIIT for short.
So, let's have Jim, why don't you take
the discussion on this, and in your,
I've done a little bit of bodybuilding, as well.
I've done the figure stage, which I have
incorporated some of this HIIT in it, more towards the end, but I'm curious to see,
since I primarily focus on martial arts,
and, kind of competitive sports
that are weight based and things like that,
as opposed to being a hardcore bodybuilder,
there's definitely different styles there.
So, where does High Intensity Interval Training
kind of fall into place with you
and what you're trying to do, maybe for stepping
on stage, or how you train and incorporate
that for fat loss on your journey,
when you're doing that?
- Yeah, absolutely.
So, when I get into competition prep,
and I'm in like, max fat loss mode,
my first preferred form of cardio is always HIIT.
I always start with like one or two HIIT sessions per week.
And the way I like to structure my HIIT is,
I'll do like really, really short bursts.
- Yeah.
- Like, really short, like 10 or 15 seconds,
and I try to go all out, everything I've got, life or death, as hard as possible.
Bcause I've actually found, I kind of figured
this out anecdotally, I guess, but then there's
some really cool research that I read maybe
a year and a half ago that shows, like a,
it's gonna be hard to do the, like with my hand.
I wish I had the graph in front of my,
but there's like an upward slope
that as your intensity goes up,
the rate of fat loss goes up, which makes sense.
But once your intensity level goes above 90%,
the slope of the curve actually increases,
which means you actually start to burn more fat
than you were at lower intensities.
And so I saw that, and I'm like wow,
that's exactly what I've been experiencing.
And so, when I do my HIIT sessions,
that's kind of my go to.
- That's awesome, that's crazy that you do
even 10 or 15 seconds, which for you guys
out there watching, that's good news for you,
because you can push yourself to your absolute max,
(Jim laughs)
but mentally you're able to - Yeah.
- actually do that, because you know
you only have 10, 15 seconds.
- You only have 10 seconds or 12 seconds,
you're like, alright, I can go all out,
and I can coast for a minute or two.
- Yeah, yeah.
- And I think what's really cool is,
you actually structure yours a little differently, I think.
Is that right?
- Yeah, I do.
I have a few different go to's that I like,
specifically, but I think it's so important
that it really depends on your fitness level.
So, I've been doing these style work-outs,
because it really compliments what I do,
explosive sports, for a long time.
So, I can actually push myself
to my absolute capacity for a longer period of time
than maybe someone just starting out
on their fitness journey, because I have so much experience.
So, a lot of times, if I was to do,
even like a 15 second burst, it doesn't really push
my body to my absolute max, because I can
basically push my gas a little bit more.
So, depending on how I'm structuring it,
for the general rule of thumb for High Intensity
Interval Training circuits is that,
for the body to stay in an anaerobic state,
which is where these thrive for burning the fat,
you don't want to go more than two minutes
of that extreme kind of intensity,
so I like to break up like, 40 seconds
with a 20 second rest.
That's more of like the advanced people.
A lot of the times I do 30 seconds.
A very easy one to start could be a 30 seconds on,
30 seconds off, but again, this has to be
full out when you go.
You can't just lazily go five reps in the 30 seconds.
You really need to push, because otherwise
you're not going to reap the benefits,
like you were saying when you hit that slope.
That's where that fat burn comes into play.
And then the other one is a very simple one
for beginners, and that's more of like a tabata style,
like a 20 second of one exercise,
20 second of another, 20 second of another.
But in order to keep that intensity
throughout those 20 seconds back-to-back,
I like to maybe vary up the exercise.
So, for instance, something like a burpee,
which takes a lot of energy out of you,
that would be a 20 second.
- Ooh, burpee.
- Yeah, it's just--
- (laughs) Yeah. - Nasty variation.
- Brutal, man, yeah.
- Nasty variations.
- Yeah. - But then, like if I know
that I have another 20 seconds to do something,
then I would still do something that's just
not as extreme, such as maybe a plank jack.
So, I'll be on my elbow, like an elbow plank,
and I'll jump my feet out like jumping jacks.
So, I'm still pushing and pushing,
but it's, it also gives you a chance
to actually take a breath, as opposed to like a burpee,
to some other crazy plio exercise.
So, it's a way to still push yourself,
but you're also giving yourself
a little leeway by not having such
an intense exercise back-to-back, if that makes any sense.
- Definitely, no that makes 100% sense.
And I just, I love everything you said,
because it's so cool that your end goal is martial arts.
Like, your end goal is very different from my end goal.
- Yeah, yeah. - But, we have this
common denominator where we both have realized
the benefits of pushing ourselves to the max,
giving us the most - Yeah.
- efficient use of our time,
which I think that that's one
of the biggest benefits of HIIT, man.
You can burn fat so fast and so efficiently.
- I'm curious, when you do your
High Intensity Interval Training,
do you like to do them on an empty stomach,
do you usually, how do you usually go about it?
Is it usually a day just designed for like a "cardio,"
or do you add it to your weights,
and does it change when you're lifting maybe,
in a bulking season, versus like a shredding season?
- Yeah, oh that's a really, really good question.
So, when I do all of my cardio,
I kind of, I used to be a fasted cardio kind of,
I used to be on board with fasted cardio.
I've kind of taken a look at the evidence,
and I've kind of used my own anecdotal experience,
and I don't think, I think fasted cardio is fine,
but I don't know if it's offering as many benefits
as I once maybe thought it did,
so now, especially with something like HIIT,
where, you know, like if you're just walking
or on the elliptical, it probably doesn't matter
as much, but with HIIT the goal is to go
as hard as you possibly can, right?
So, I treat it very much like a training session,
and so I want to make sure I'm fueled up
for those cardio sessions, too.
I generally try to do my HIIT sessions
at a separate time, independent from my weight sessions,
but if I have to do them together
I always do weights first, and HIIT second.
- Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Just a little tidbit to wrap up this tip here,
the idea of supersets and just like,
when I'm doing a heavy lift, then I'll just quickly
go off to the side, and I'll do like
20 jump squats as fast as I can.
And even that is a small form of HIIT,
where even though you're not timed with like,
specific exercises, but these integrated
into these heavy lifting sessions help,
I believe, to really push that fat burning mode
into overdrive.
What is your thought on doing that?
- Yeah, so I'm a huge fan of supersets,
huge fan of supersets
especially if your time - Yeah.
- is so limited, right?
I mean, you talked about this earlier,
and I know you've coached so many clients,
and I made contact with so many people
where the number one excuse that we get Natalie,
all the time, is I just don't have time
for this stuff, right?
- Yeah. - So, it's like, to me,
something like HIIT or supersets,
it's like, this is a slam dunk, man.
Like, especially with HIIT, you're gonna get
the faster fat loss and it's gonna save you a bunch of time.
- Yeah, I know,
it's just really-- - So it's just an easy,
easy thing to do.
Supersets are a great way to push a lot
of volume through in a very short amount of time.
- Real quick, 'cause I just realized,
in case you guys don't know, even though
if you follow me you should know this definition,
but in case you don't, no worries.
Superset is two exercises back to back
with little to no rest in between,
so it's really pushing yourself back-to-back.
So, again, it's that same kind of idea, pushing yourself.
So, those are a great tool, as well, for fat loss,
but when it comes to HIIT, the biggest thing
to really reap the benefits, in summary,
is really to make sure that it's short,
intense bursts of exercise followed by rest,
because you do want to recover,
so you can kind of catch your breath,
so that you can go 100% during that next set.
So, that's the benefit of HIIT.
As you can see, it helps in martial arts,
it helps in bodybuilding.
It's a great tool, and there's different styles,
as you saw, that both Jim and I,
we kind of structure ours a little differently.
So, that should give you some kind of motivation
that there's nothing cookie cutter.
As long as you're really just doing exercises
that you can do, depending on your fitness level,
pushing yourself to your limit, taking small rests.
Start slow, and then, again, if you have
any questions on High Intensity Interval Training,
Jim, your girl, we've got you.
Just shoot us a comment section below,
or you can message him personally.
And guys, I will put that all in the description box,
obviously, because you're not gonna remember that.
So, let's put that in the description box,
and thanks again, Jim.
- Yeah. - We were gonna tune
back in next week so we could talk about tip number two.
Thanks, guys.
See you later.
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